I think your guessing here, what fighters are you saying had to go without needed food and training as often as reports said Sam did? As for his eyesight a number of fighters lost or had eye injuries, Frazier, Greb, Sam and many others, some from punches some from thumbs as was the case with Harry. Its guessing how his eyesight deteriorated, I was butted early in my career and it caused permanent nerve damage, we have no way of knowing about Sam's and defense may have had no bearing on it.
I used random photos from given eras. Completely random, I don't have any agenda. Ask boxing equipment history experts, gloves weren't bigger in 1930s than today.
https://streamable.com/ma0ca Sam Langford using the jab consistently. What is your argument now? Langford parried tons of Jeanette jabs in their filmed fight, he also used good head movement to go under the jab and counter. Not to mention that he blocked a lot of Joe's punches with his right hand that was in high position and he used crossarm defense to prevent counters. Langford was very rarely hit by Jeanette in this fight because Langford used his hands well to protect himself and he had good, subtle head movement. Not to mention his footwork - he didn't give Jeanette many chances to run away, he was great at cutting off the ring. What are your arguments now?
Miske went into the ring half dead? Are you referring to his second fight with Dempsey on 6th September 1920? After this fight he fought for another 3 years, having 23 fights losing only 1 of them! ps Miske died in January 1924
When gloved boxing started to become comonplace in the 1880s there were: Hard gloves (2oz leather gloves) Soft gloves (4oz horse hair gloves) Some states mandated 8oz gloves which were seen as pillows at the time. John L Sullivan fought with everything from 2oz to 8oz gloves. As boxing became legitimate 4oz gloves became the standard. Around the 1920s 5oz gloves became the standard. By the 1930s 6oz gloves were introduced. 8oz gloves became standard in the 1940s. janitor, Apr 26, 2009 Report
Nice to see that you didn't watch the clip I posted again. I can't understand why I even bother to discuss with you.
My point,which incidentally I proved is, he wasn't," half dead ,"when he fought Brennan and he didn't," die just days after".
So you said that he didn't jabs at all (0 or 1 attempts in all footage) but now you change your narrative that he didn't throw "decent jabs". Excellent way to discuss, thanks for that. You don't see any defense because you don't watch. If you don't see parries and blocks, then you have some problems with your vision. That's not my problem though.
He ko'd Brennan in 4 rounds so he wasn't half dead you pillock! Brights disease comes and goes. It's now known as nephritis and affects the kidneys . You were wrong on this. Wrong on the size of the gloves . Wrong on Langford's jabbing! Not that you could ever bring yourself to admit it! Maybe one day you'll get something right! Meanwhile we won't be holding our breath! LOL
Dude beat Joe Gans, Sam McVea, Joe Jeanette, Stanley Ketchel, Harry Wills, Gunboat Smith, Jack O'Brien, Jack Blackburn, Kid Norfolk and TIger Flower... great fighters from lightweight to heavyweight, great fighters across almost 2 decades... A guy who was able to fight on a day's notice and routinely fought twice in a week. And I am supposed to believe that all those mentioned above and great fighters a tier down like Jeff Clark and George Godfrey were merely worse scrubs and that he never learned a technique or lesson in all those 200+ fights (which were likely many, many more)? That's some sound reasoning there, folks.
I still don't know for sure whether he is a perfectly articulate English speaker who can construct a grammatically flawless sentence and holds absolutely reasonable positions on boxing history but is also a world-class troll that never breaks his character as a German with a poor grasp of grammar and utterly idiosyncratic/mad views on the sport who is just ****ing with us for his own amusement. I'd love it if that were the case!
