FFS wilder!

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  1. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Hahahhaha, deary deary me. How naive. Don't you realise, a promoter is a slave master, as long as the fighter is under his wing he is his *****. It's glorified pimping at the highest level. Anyone that believes otherwise is a fool. Boxers are meat, a lot more sophisticated than before and yes they definitely have more weight/say nowadays but the fact remains they are the meat. This will never change. Don't you realise AJ wasn't getting any rematch without Hearn! The boys in the suits run the show. AJ was one loss away from being put down, cast away on the meat heap. Eddie is the shot caller. Until AJ goes it alone like Floyd Mayweather he will be Eddie's number 1 slave, his cash cow.
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You missed that point that AJ doesnt need Eddie Hearn. For all the slave master talk why the heck is AJ with matchroom if his forced to fight whoever matchroom tell him to fight?

    Do you honestly believe AJ can say to Eddie Hearn make me the wilder fight and Hearn will just say 'No AJ thats not happening, you fight who I tell you to fight'.

    You talk about Naive and then talk about slave master lol
     
  3. Hurrikeen

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    Christ, I don't even know where to start with this utter tripe.
     
  4. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    You cant start by learning how the dark, seedy boxing game works rookie.
     
  5. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Lmao go on a massive rant name calling someone then say "I have nothing against the man"

    Out of interest did you think Ruiz would win the rematch?
     
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    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    big Josh said himself he is not his own boss in that head to head thing with Jonny Nelson

    Nelson “you’re the boss though right?”

    AJ “No I am not the boss. I am one of the bosses.”

    Doesn’t sound like a man in charge of his own career to me
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't sound like a man who is told who to fight.

    Like any boxer he has management team and a promoter who will look out for his best interests. Ultimately though AJ will right who he wants.

    When Miller popped dirty AJ wanted Ortiz so they tried to get Ortiz.

    Ironically another fighter who supposedly Eddie Hearn was deliberately keeping him away from Joshua.
     
  8. Cluedo

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    I keep saying why would Wilder ever fight on a hearn card after what he has said about Wilder

    bad blood between him and AJs promoter is causing problems making the fight.
     
  9. DON1

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    Eddie is protecting his investment, even if AJ (supposedly) wants Wilder, Eddie will pump the breaks. With the 'I know best kid'.
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't need to protect the investment. AJ v Wilder does massive numbers, AJ losing to Wilder doesn't mean he stops drawing money.

    Using this logic why would Hearn have AJ jump straight back into the ring with Ruiz. If its all about 'protecting the investment' why take the risk of losing again v Ruiz?
     
  11. DON1

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    tbh I went for Josh because he simply just had to win, he just had to. Easy pick.

    Ruiz won the lottery in the first fight and the hunger went. Happens alot.
     
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  12. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably the second most common reason for high-profile fighter/promoter fall-outs (after ££££) is when the fighter's views on who he should fight conflicts with the promoter's.

    It happened many times with Warren fighters where they would branch out when they got frustrated with Warren's usual risk:reward and big fish:small pond ratios.

    Joshua is at a bit of a crossroads, in that the potential fights with Fury/Wilder need to happen before too long, otherwise the fights will cease to be relevant. It was 2015 & 16 that the three of them won their first belts, and assuming there isn't the big unification fight in 2020, means a 5 year period has elapsed without a definitive champion. There probably isn't that much longer to run for this particular cycle to run its course, and for the next generation to rise.

    Lewis-Bowe for example was the biggest fight in boxing in 1993. By 1994/5 there were other more important fights, and by the end of 1996 it was a complete irrelevance. Timing is everything, and the clock is ticking.

    As tight as Joshua and Hearn claim to be, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a shake up in the next couple of years.
     
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    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's truth in both sides. A loss doesn't normally signal the end of a heavyweight's marketability (far from it), but most people believe that if Joshua loses to Wilder it will be by conclusive knockout. That's what Wilder tends to do to people, and it's unlikely that he's going to outbox Joshua.
     
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    Hearn's ego would love nothing more than to be the man who has promoted the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion, so coupled with the fact it brings in absolute mega-bucks, it's a no brainer.

    Hearn wants this big time.
     
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    How many times can I say this Fury will not fight Joshua different networks and both want to be the a side