Was RJJ at 168lbs the most unbeatable fighter ever?

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Was RJJ at 168lbs the most unbeatable fighter ever?

  1. Yes

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  2. No - specify who and what weight class

    27 vote(s)
    47.4%
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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure Bill Miller said James had much less fire in his belly and ambition after the Jones fight and losing Jackie etc, didn't get it back til Jirov
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd forgot he was still a fighter
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Possibly. But he obviously wanted to try and avenge his disputed loss to Griffin, and he had too much respect for Mike to not take him seriously.
     
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    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, he went out of the spotlight for a while. But he had the Griffin rematch just before he fought Mike for the last time.

    The Griffin rematch brought him back into the picture.
     
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  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy was an old man, a fatty.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesn’t matter.

    He was still a world class fighter.
     
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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not anymore. He was the best in the business from 84 to 87 and in 1990 once settled at his new weight. In the late nineties in his forties, no - not big, strong, fast, fit, young or powerful enough, legs and reflexes gone.
     
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  8. Loudon

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    He’d just turned 40 when he fought Toney in his last fight.

    He was still a top 10 rated LHW when Roy fought him.
     
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  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some names I have seen so far:

    Monson 160
    Duran 135
    Mosley 135
    SRL 147
    SRR 147
     
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    Michael Nunn from 87 to Kalambay fight. Pre-cocaine.
     
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    Robinson welter
    Duran lightweight
    Ali about 1967
     
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  12. Loudon

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    Monzon never looked unbeatable in the way that Roy did.
     
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    25m30s to 26m
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At 7:05 in the video, it looks like Pyatt clipped Collins on the side of the head with that right hook which caused Collins to stumble. The commentator stated "No that's also a stumble" to suggest the punch didn't connect. After watching the sequence several times, I'm convinced that right hook connected, just enough to cause Collins to stumble. What do you guys think?
     
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  15. Loudon

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    What point are you trying to make?
     
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