My Top 50 HWs?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    What does the poster McVey have to do with this?

    Jeffries has the edge in common opposition at the time with the Griffin fight. Stylistically there's no reason to assume he couldn't replicate what Hart did and force the action for the full fight. But if I'm to say who I think the better HW was, from 1902 onwards I give the edge to Johnson.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Just showing he can be honest even though he hates Jeffries. Yes Jeffries has the edge in common opposition. He floored Choysnkii 2-3x and had to settle for a draw. Choynski, past his best god Johnson. He KO'd Griffin,and later had him down 2-3 more time in a 4 rounder, the same Griffin best Jack Johnson. Jeffries results vs Munore was far better, same thing with Mexican Pete.

    Johnson didn''t shine vs Hart. He lost, and Hart was not on par with quite a few Jeffries opponents, that was 1905, so I disagree Johnson would have the edge by 1902. Jeffries by the way said he'd fight Hart if people wanted to see it.

    IMO Jeffries retied too early, he should have bought Hart, and 3-4 more times.
     
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    Why would I be bothered about his honesty or his hatred? I'm not talking to McVey here, I'm talking to you.

    I know Jeffries had the edge, I said so myself.

    Jeffries definitely retired too soon. I think he'd have beaten Hart and Burns and Root for that matter.

    Gon to my head, I say Johnson beats him. Any time from 1902 onwards.
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Where would you rank Wills, Langford, and Peter Jackson in there?

    The only thing I'd really disagree with there is having Dempsey above Jeffries, who I think did a much better job of dominating his era, and in one that was atleast as good as Dempsey's
     
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    Wills and Langford respectively in between Dempsey and Jeffries. Jackson in between Corbett and Willard.
     
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    That makes me Eddie Muhammad.

    I feel I need a middle name to make my name whole. Anyone got any suggestions?
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Vyacheslavovich?
     
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    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on, guys. Someone Mustafa good idea out there.
     
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    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't want to be Russian into taking any old name.
     
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    I haven't problem with you but i think you tried to lick Crowcoft's ass .No problem but this is your taste.
     
  11. KeedCubano

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    Sounds like you have a problem with Crowcroft lol
     
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    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

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    Honestly you have an amazing talent for ruining threads
     
  13. Eddie Ezzard

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    Mate. Aussie cuisine is not the greatest - we all know that - but I think even @JohnThomas1 draws the gastronomical line well before he gets to Crowcroft's rump steak.
     
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  14. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I will confirm this
     
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  15. Italian Stallion

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    Had he defeated Bowe officially, maybe, just maybe, Andrzej Golota would sneak into this Top 50.