How good is Derek Chisora?

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    Well, he always has been a journeyman.
    And don´t go calling for his retirement. Many have made this mistake before.
    I sweat I have been hearing that since Haye starched him.
     
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    I'm not some big Derek fan but some of his losses also have an asterisk. He's the kind of fighter that separates the top and the pretenders/ also rans of a weight division.

    Responding to others, if Chisora is "C" level then most everybody here is D to F level in whatever you do besides post on sports forums :shakehead: At his peak he was a bottom top 10 in the world HW. Few people will ever reach that level of "C".
     
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  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even top 50 is top 5 % of all boxers in division if division does have 1000 boxers.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he has always been a journeyman how do you explain his win against Whyte? Who according to the governing bodies before the Pov loss was top 4. Only ever having lost to a green AJ as a green fighter himself.

    Also his performance against Vitali was outstanding.
     
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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Better than wilder let's put that way.

    Chisora gives him a good old fashioned hiding
     
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  6. Unforgiven

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    Whyte definitely wasn't a world contender when Chisora "beat" him.

    Chisora's best claim to being a contender was when he was robbed against a "prime Helenius" back in 2011.
     
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    He was the WBC number 1 challenger back then.

    But yep. As you say Claude, he wasnt a world contender.
     
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    Whyte wasn't WBC #1 in 2016 though.
    Are you talking about Helenius ?
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i didnt check my dates of when the first Chisora fight was, sorry about that.

    I recall him becoming number 1 with the WBC back in early 2018. So actually he wasnt a number 1 contender at the time of the first Chisora fight.
     
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  10. TFP

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    Excellent gatekeeper, as others have pointed out, with better luck in terms of matches and marketability could no doubt have briefly sneaked a world belt at some point.
     
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    Well... Whyte is just a bit better than him.
    But Whyte is not that good tbh.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's nearing the end of his career. He wasn't when Haye beat him. We aren't in 2012 anymore.

    But i was just looking at it this way, if he can't beat Usyk, there's no hopes of ever getting a title shot. I suppose if he can still make some money in the UK, who am I to say when to stop.
     
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    Genuinely had no idea that Pulev had fart sauce dipped before, theres every chance we could see Joshua's Grade A china chin get shattered again.
     
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    Blows Hot and cold… He's sort of B level.. A good durable fighter that is able to test people but falls short at the very top level… I think he deserved a win over Whyte & Helenius but was screwed a bit.. very solid career. Entertaining fighter. Looks to be in the shape of his life right now though whereas in the past he has come in quite fleshy at times.
     
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  15. DirtyOldTown

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    European level.
     
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