Who spoke of boxing in the most sophisticated way?

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  1. Colonel Sanders

    Colonel Sanders Pounchin powar calculateur Full Member

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  2. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cus imo
     
  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Most have reservations on him as a historian, but Bert Sugar really did have a way with words, especially comedic phrasing.

    For pure prose and writing though, I'd have to say Pierce Egan and Gilbert Odd.
     
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    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Burt Bienstock.
     
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    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gil Clancy....you can learn so much from listening to his commentary...he was an encyclopedia
     
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    Jim Lampley is great at his job ....if you understand what his job is
     
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    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For me, I'd say trainers like Gil Clancy and Manny Steward. Listening to them, you can just tell they see things many don't. They knew boxing as well as anyone who's ever lived.
    I do like hearing Roy Jones talk though. One of the few fighters who doesn't talk rubbish.
    (I'm definitely not saying fighters don't know boxing-of course they do-but some talk the biggest pile of crap you're ever likely to hear)
    Boxing scribes and journalists... depends on their pedigree.
    Matchmakers like Teddy Brenner definitely knew boxing.
     
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    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxed Ears
     
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    For boxers Jack Dempsey in his book 'Championship Fighting' and for boxers who are commentating it's hard to not like Roy Jones and Paulie Malinaggi, or George Foreman if you want to laugh, not the most insightful though aha.
    For historians Henry Hascup and Cliff Rold have taught me plenty and always have some insightful input, not a fan of Bert Sugar but can see why some like him.
     
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    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Just in terms of analyzing the skills and tactics of individual fighters? Wilson Kayden on Youtube was excellent.
     
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    Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch, Emanuel Stewart, Bert Sugar, Larry Merchant, Al Bernstein, Dempsey, Gil Clancy, Archie Moore to name a few.
     
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    Never heard him speak, but AJ Liebling wrote about the game on a high level — not so much in a technical sense but conveying a lot about the sociology and psychology around a fight or boxing event in a very accessible and humorous way.

    Nobody conveyed the characters around the sport he way AJ did.
     
  14. Ken Ashcroft

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    Chris ‘English’ Eubank.
     
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    Cus certainly made the sweet science sound mystical- Never a dull time with the great eccentric trainer.