Luis Ortíz vs. Charles Lee Martin & Frank Sánchez Faure vs. Criștian Ciocan RBR

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  1. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I think you have this completely backwards.

    If Whyte were too cowardly to fight Ortiz, there's no way he'd fight a guy that's superior in literally every single way (Povetkin) and chase the guy that knocked Ortiz out twice (the same guy that ducked Whyte consistently).

    Ortiz isn't the one being ducked.
     
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  2. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ortiz is at the end of his career but I still think he has a good shot of beating half of the "top 10".
     
    seansanashee, Jan 1, 2022
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  3. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even his daughter laughed at that, good to see.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz has the legs of a 65 year old man inside a 55 year old mans body.
     
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  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ortiz is just clearly more skilled. He's just fragile now. Ortiz survived some scares and his skills did the job over time.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Why oh why did Ray Flores interrupt his translator mid-sentence there? :shakehead:

    "It's like when you see a tree, and you reach up for-"

    I was really hoping to hear the word banana there. Fella's really gone full method-acting with the whole King Kong thing, victorious chest thumping and all.
     
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  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting name..thought it was a sponsor and they couldn't fit a space.
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1) He flat-out turned down an eliminator against him.

    2) Then as soon as Ortiz signed another fight he ‘called him out’ lol.

    3) OK, so go ahead and fight him now. If your boy is STILL that scared of him, tells me a lot.
     
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  9. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Could someone put up the Top 10 after todays fights might make for some interesting reading...
     
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  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Luis Ortiz looked very beatable tonight, but he still has power and will be dangerous for whoever fights him next.
     
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  11. theXshape

    theXshape Active Member Full Member

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    Please show me your top 25 because I fail to have a top 10 there...
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Final stats:

    Ortíz 60 of 184, 33%
    Martin 46 of 196, 23%
     
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  13. kirk

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    It's obvious Ortiz would be a force in his younger days. A shame he didnt have more meaningful fights..

    A shot, ancient, hobbling Ortiz whose brain has been Wildered twice looked every bit of it tonight, yet despite that he had enough for Martin. Glad to see it.

    Obviously should retire. But won't. His next fight likely ends badly for him.

    Anyways.... congrats to the old man. Happy he got the win.
     
    kirk, Jan 1, 2022
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  14. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Ortiz knows perfectly southpaw vs southpaw, not everybody does. Gary Russel Jr couldnt do it properly, for instance, vs lomachenko. But ortiz has done it perfectly today. Doubling the jab and seting up the straight left hand. Basically a mirror of a normal fight, but I repeat not every pro southpaw does it properly.
     
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  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    King Kong's wife eating most of the bananas.
     
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