Head to head, Is Luis Ortiz the best southpaw heavyweight of all time?

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  1. Thunderstorm

    Thunderstorm Active Member Full Member

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    He is the greatest shw southpaw
     
    Thunderstorm, Jun 24, 2022
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  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah. he hasn't fought anyone of note other than Wilder who he lost to twice.

    The guy is gatekeeper level with his resume. anything more is overrating him.
     
    exocet76, Jun 24, 2022
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  3. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Usyk's win over Joshua trumps everything Ortiz has ever done at heavyweight.

    I think Ibragimov was one of the best southpaw heavyweights, as was Chagaev until he got Hep B. Moorer too.

    Interestingly, all four are blown up cruiserweights, smaller heavyweights.

    Currently, Jalalov would easily knock Ortiz out. He doesn't have much of a pro resume yet, but head to head he's easily a top ten heavyweight.
     
    Perkin Warbeck, Jun 24, 2022
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  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Fury isn`t that good in a southpaw stance and Wallin`s southpaw stance gave him problems.
     
    mark ant, Jun 24, 2022
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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  6. Devon

    Devon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Byrd, Moorer and Usyk are all better
     
    Devon, Jun 24, 2022
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  7. Ilesey

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    Jesus wept.
     
    Ilesey, Jun 24, 2022
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  8. catchwtboxing

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    You have brain damage. Wilder sucks and does not have a single noteworthy performance.

    Anyone who knows what he is talking about knows that Sanders hated boxing, and often did not train. When he did, he was capable of getting a win over Wladdy, which is better than Ortiz's entire career.
     
    catchwtboxing, Jun 24, 2022
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Why, cause he was a southpaw too?
     
    mark ant, Jun 25, 2022
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  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Trolling heavy. Smoking Joe beats the living **** outta that fraud.
     
    vast, Jun 25, 2022
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  11. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Michael Moore ranks higher too. Usyk is a no Brainer. In his short stint at hw, Usyk already has a far better win than Ortiz.
     
    Braindamage, Jun 25, 2022
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  12. Ilesey

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    Affirmative, Mark.
     
    Ilesey, Jun 25, 2022
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    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Of course... Heck, even after just 2 heavyweight fights he was ahead - the Chisora that Usyk beat was FAR more dangerous than the pathetic fighter that Jennings was when he fought Ortiz (and let's face it, that's as close to a noteworthy win as Ortiz has got).

    Ridiculous how Ortiz is mentioned as remotely relevant - he never was and he certainly isn't now he's basically shot... A shot ghost of a never-was.
     
    BubblesUK, Jun 25, 2022
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Usyk and Blond Ortiz are the best by a large margin, with the exception of 90s Corrie Sanders, who cuts it closer than the others.
     
    NoNeck, Jun 25, 2022
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Michael Moorer is the first name that comes to mind. Byrd, Sanders, Chagaev also deserve consideration. Ortiz is more of a What If? kinda fighter. What if he turned pro before the age of 60?
     
    Seamus, Jun 25, 2022
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