I don't buy into any of that You are indeed correct about boxing being unforgiving But nothing is more unforgiving than the truth Big Joe is all wrong for Mike and I see the later getting worn down and stopped by Big Joe's size, relentless pressure, power and slow-fast speed Either that or he gets himself DQ'd out of frustration at his slow-fast speed and not being able to put a dent in Joe
Maybe...I really like both guys. I just think Mike was an all or nothing kinda guy, he went from brilliant to average very quickly, and I feel when he was brilliant, he was unstoppable. Just seems a shame he gets judged on the average side of his career rather than the brilliant side. I am pretty sure Mike in 1986 would've beaten anyone. It would probably go to points though with Joyce.
He was a monster in his prime and capable of beating anyone at his best. But as said, I feel Big Joe is just too big, tough, fit and just all wrong for him
Possibly, we will never know I suppose. I am the biggest Joyce fan going though, have been singing his praises for many years. He has so much going for him yet he gets consistently written off by casuals. I've earned nice money betting on him over the years, that will no doubt come to an end now that he has proved himself on the big stage.
Me too. Big Joe is far too sophisticated and deceptive to comprehend for casual eyes but he keeps proving the doubters wrong every step of the way. Some of them are finally coming around but they will not be welcomed with open arms by yours truly because it's going to take time for me to forgive them.
I know what you mean...I still remember all my mates looking at me in disbelief when they all came to watch Dubois demolish this 'slow bum'. Joyce has something very special, as you said most eyes cannot see it. He appears to be made of titanium, intelligent, timing impeccable, chin like no other. I don't even think he's that slow, if he is he makes up for it with accuracy and endurance. Look at him in his corner in the midst of all his so called 'battles'. He looks like an old man reading the newspaper. Very likeable guy too and not a bad bone in his body.
The doubters and disbelievers look really stupid now. Yes, he's a beast, a very unique beast at that, and an absolute scholar and a gent outside the ring too. It's impossible to dislike him and anyone who does, as with anyone who dislikes Usyk, is human vermin.
Yeah if you hate Joyce or Usyk then who is there left to like FFS. What else can anyone do? Both elite athletes, killers in the ring, but would help your mum across the road with her shopping. Both are interesting character outside the ring too, I find it fascinating how they can perform in such a brutal arena yet have such refined interests outside of it, and still be such nice guys.
No ducking or dodging from either either. There's really no good reason not to like them and if for some strange reason someone doesn't, they should, at the very least, respect them. Yeah, Usyk loves writing poetry and Joyce loves painting.
This discussion has reached a new level of "Worst Thread ever" and an example that social media has gotten completely out of control people who spread their nonsense and think they know more than boxing experts or are better than some boxers themselves , see "Charlie Zelenhoff" as example its so sad. Listen if people here seriously believe that "Ben Askren" would knock out a prime "George Foreman" then that's just utter nonsense. on television, everyone would make a fool of themselves in front of professional boxers, promoters or moderators with these arguments. And as for Mike Tyson against Joyce. a minority would bet a large sum on Joyce here, he would be the clear outsider with bookmakers etc. , fact
Destroys?? Sure, the fighters obviously aren’t pro’s, but amateur refereeing is nothing short of a joke.