Devin Miles Haney vs. Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko & Junto Nakatani vs. Andrew Moloney RBR.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So I'm like the reverse truth teller, for you. Wow I am honored. Oddly there are many posters who I think the same way of, but I always try to understand the logic of those that I disagree with. Because if someone is able to make a convincing argument, then I am more willing to consider its merits. But if someone is reacting to a decision on emotions, then I'm less willing to take said poster seriously.
     
  2. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hades ?

    Yes !!!

    That surname has a 60 % identification with Haney.




    Suddenly, it's all so ****in obvious.
     
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  3. FrankinDallas

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    Sounds familiar but his exploits escape my memory at the moment.
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice post I tried to say same thing last night but not as eloquently and got banned. Funny how certain posters ALWAYS have the same score as the judges no matter how controversial outcome. Clowns. Kovalev Ward 1 something like 80 percent of press row had Kovalev winning but the clowns on this site the same handful of guys every time swear their cards had Ward up. Same thing last night espn poll has 77 percent for Lomachenko but same few guys swear Haney won. But you get labeled the bad guy for pointing it out. Thanks for bringing the receipts on all those fights you listed. It’s a joke people say you can’t get a fair fight in Germany - nothing comes close to American judges. Totally corrupt. Kovalev, Triple G, Lomachenko - have all had their legacies scarred by bad judging. Funny how none of them got the call in any of their mega fights. Right
     
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  5. cuchulain

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    No emotions involved in this line of reasoning, Shadow.

    It's pure logic !

    Based on a statistically significant sample of your musings on matters pugilistic, a clear, unwavering pattern emerges.

    It might be interring, even fascinating, to study why this inverse relationship exists.

    But that's a project for someone else.


    All I know is that the formula works in nearly all instances.

    RT = -(RS)

    Where RT is the true result and RS is Shadow's result.


    A simple, elegant, easy-to-use formula that just about always works.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You may be overthinking it a tad though. It may be true that the fighters in which you say won were also the fighter you were rooting for, and the fighter who I had winning I didn't have an emotional investment in.
     
  7. cuchulain

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    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...-the-last-25-years.79638/page-41#post-2303653

    He's in this thread where TFFP, ChinaHandJoe and myself are trolling a couple of Calzaghe haters (actually just one using two ALTS) DINAMITA and Pacfan.

    We came up with the concept of an assumed resume....what would have happened had two fighters who never fought, actually fought and we assigned a probability to the outcome .

    DNAMITA became incensed and assumed we were nut cases.




    He might have been right.
     
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  8. FrankinDallas

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    Lol an oldie but goodie.
     
  9. cuchulain

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    There again, we are back to "reverse truthing."

    I'll leave it to you to figure out what's meant by the above sentence.


    When you figure it out, it might force you into some significant self-reflection, Shadow.

    But the resulting 'personal growth' will be worth it.
     
  10. shadow111

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    I bring this up because I just watched a fight that the guy I thought won wasn't the guy who I was rooting for. If I scored with my heart, I would have scored it for Loma. It shows that I'm objective when it comes to scoring, that I don't just score close fights to the guy I'm rooting for.
     
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  11. Serge

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    Thanks. Yes, when you're always scoring fights that are considered robberies or really bad ones in one direction and are part of a tiny minority who keep doing so and are OK with fighters never getting the rub of the green in close fights you lose all credibility.

    They robbed Loma and I told you all they would and I've been proven right way too many times before and unless something is done about them stacking the deck with a home ref and three home judges for world title fights so often I'll be right many more too
     
  12. Serge

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    :lol: Devil Haney should hook up with Virgin Hunter
     
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  13. The Long Count

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    I just rewatched the fight I had it 7-5 loma. I initially had it 8-4 loma but I flipped round 1 to Haney. I think in the excitement I didn’t realize he had some good body work. Either way you have to be hard pressed to get him 7 rounds for the win. But the judges find a way every single time don’t they. Shame for Loma guy is a legend fighting giants past prime against peak dudes and he got the shaft. Like you said this won’t be the last.
     
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  14. The Cryptkeeper

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    One corrupt judge had Haney winning 4 more rounds than Loma. The same judge gave Haney round 10 when Lomachenko literally landed more than twice as many punches as Haney in that round. Even the two judges scoring 115-113 are questionable but 116-112 is just blatant criminal behaviour.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Had it 8-4 Loma but 7-5 is fine too

    Yes he is. Without the corruption he should be

    GOAT amateur

    2 x Olympic gold medalist at 2 weights
    2 x World Amateur gold medalist at 2 weights
    European gold medalist
    Junior world gold medalist

    Former P4P#1 amateur

    P4P#1 pro in just 12 fights

    Three weight champion

    The fastest ever one weight champ

    The fastest ever two weight champ

    The fastest ever three weight champ

    The undisputed lightweight champ

    With a record of 421-2, one loss avenged x 2, the other against a fighter while injured and coming off 14 months of inactivity, against a massive lightweight who was 2 divisions heavier in the ring, and was the hardest puncher in the division, very explosive and athletic, with vicious one punch KO power in either hand and blazing hand speed and they ducked the rematch against him.

    Listen to what Sunny Edwards says about Loma here and staying in the amateurs too long and being rushed in the pros after doing so

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