I see a 75-76 ron lyle giving joe louis a dangerous fight

I see Louis stopping him in about three ... not a good match up for Ron ...

 

Louis was a cerebral fighter, he was not the boxer Ali was and not the slugger Foreman was. He was a blending of those types of styles and that's why he was he was so effective, plus his punching efficiency. Just to be clear, we are debating here about Louis and Lyle, but regardless, I think Louis would stop Lyle in probably about 10 rounds, give or take a couple depending on the pace.

One of the main points holding me back is that there is not real strong case for Louis' chin.

 

Ummm...... Louis had similar boxing skills of Ali combined with Formanesque punching power. Louis by KO. Lyle would be more suited for Buddy Baer

 

Quarry vs Sharkey and Nova vs Norton would be good fights.

 

The most Lyle would do is perhaps floor Louis. Lyle vs Buddy Baer would be a more winnable fight for Lyle.

 

That's quite a bit I would say. A lot of good fighters couldn't do it.

 

No. Joe Louis has the stylistic advantages to beat Ron Lyle, and he is, in my opinion, in another class as well. While I suppose it is possible that Ron Lyle could knock Joe Louis down at some point, I would be surprised if that happened.

 

Whatever happens it’s a very dangerous fight for Louis. Don’t forget Lyle is big, strong and had a decent chin. Also he hit very hard. I’m not going to debate the winner but most heavy weights post Louis’s own reign are a threat to him. He certainly wouldn’t go undefeated if he fought ever champion after him and top contenders too.

 

It's time to acknowledge the truth of Joe Louis. That a lot of fighters throughout HW history and LHW history and CW history and future SHW history and future BW history are going to give him a dangerous fight before he forces their teeth into their shirikodama and leaves them soundlessly weeping in a puddle of most of the types of fluids a human body can produce, wondering how they went from almost winning to nearly dying so quickly.

 

The only reason that Ron Lyle has been accorded as the second coming of Christ is that he managed to floor an ego depleted post Zaire George Foreman on Jan 24 1976. If Jerry Quarry and Jimmy Young can defeat a Ron Lyle who was a decent boxer, a hard punching Joe Louis would destroy Lyle.

 

Don't be ridiculous. Lyle would be about as dangerous to Louis as was the Baer brothers or Tony Galento.

 

I’m not being ridiculous. I’m trying to be realistic. Joe Louis reigned in an era that didn’t stretch him. In terms of talent pool around at that time. Also WW2 extended his reign. This has given him a god like status. He is most definitely a ATG. Arguably THE ATG. But actually there are plentiful fighters that would( again I’m not going to go into who would win) but they certainly would be dangerous/difficult for Louis. Lyle being one of them.

 

I miss this guy who made this thread lol. God help you if you picked someone against George Foreman!

 

Me too, he made me laugh more than anyone has in here i reckon. I loved rattling his cage too which was rather easy. Unfortunately he couldn't control the way he spoke to others (usually per Foreman hahaha) and couldn't stay viable for very long.

 

Power: Lyle (perhaps)
Hand speed: Louis
Chin: Lyle
Stamina: Louis
Foot speed: Lyle
Technique: Louis (by a lot)
Defense: Louis
Combinations: Louis
Body shots: Even...?
Strength: Lyle
Killer instinct: Even
Accuracy: Louis
Timing: Louis
Ring IQ: Louis
Heart: Even


Slightly dangerous fight, but Louis should obviously be favored to win. Scenario 1: Louis gets through some rocky early rounds in exciting back and forth exchanges before he breaks Lyle down with his crisp combinations winning via KO within 8-10 rounds. Louis may or may not have to get off the floor to do it, but he gets it done. Scenario 2: Louis plays it safe and boxes Lyle's head off at mid range behind the jab, parrying and punishing the more crude shots of Lyle before winning a rather obvious decision. Louis is simply too polished, smart, and well rounded to give Lyle the opportunity to make this an ugly brawl and even if he did, Louis could still win. He's just on another level overall.