Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois & Dmytro Mytrofanov vs. Hamzah Sheeraz RBR.

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  1. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agreed, problem is provolone didn’t make it clear before the fight where he was going to call low blows - he omitted that for some odd reason.

    the point I’m making is if it’s on the belt line
    How can he call it low especially if he didn’t define what he would consider low.

    How can he call it low in such quick action?
    If it were a clear & obvious nutt shot it’s explainable - but this was on the belt line
    In real-time looked like a legit body shot.
    Upon further review / super slow mo it’s on the belt line splitting hairs.

    boxing needs official instant replay.
     
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  2. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first thing out of Dubois in the post fight interview was that he was robbed out of a win, but where is the responsibility of finishing the job. He couldn't end Usyk after that recovery although he looked shaky. You gotta take that opportunity and use it to become a real champ. When the going got tough, he checked out instead of persevering. If he thinks a power jab is tough to get up from, what about the old school fighters that kept getting up over 15 rounds from monster shots?
     
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    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Nahh he was looking over and shaking his head at his corner saying “No, I don’t need more time”
     
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    So be it.
     
  5. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Fully agree on both of your points.

    Dubois is naturally flawed. He's pretty much prime age and doesn't have what it takes at elite level. He's been exposed now, he doesn't know how, or doesn't have the confidence to capitalise in a fight at world level, and he definitely is something of a quitter....no two ways about it for me

    Usyk, as much as I'm a huge fan of his, is certainly in some decline now. He's still a great fighter of course. I'm just not sure now how long he can go on.
     
  6. Hanz Cholo

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    Be that as it may Usyk caught a major Break today.
    Tyson Fury will be able to land on the body from long range with no real fear of being countered…. Too bad Fury doesn’t want the smoke.
     
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    Usyk has
    Usyk has shown tonight he has no nuts so it cannot be a nut shot .
     
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  8. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are aware it's natural that he's a bit slower when in heavyweight compared to cruiserweight, right? Because of all that extra weight he carries as a heavyweight.
     
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    We usually agree David, but I must take issue with TWO your points.

    You state that "...Dubois landed a clean and powerful shot to Usyk’s navel/bladder."

    The bladder is well below the waist, so by definition, any bladder shot is a low blow.


    Regarding the 'short' count , It could have gone either way...He was right on the margin.
    The ref could have let it continue or he could have ( and did) stopped it.

    Dubois had no fight left in him...he was done, and he didn't object much.


    I agree with you ( as does Usyk) that the ref should not have pressed the issue of taking the full five minutes.
     
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    Yes that's part of it. As I've been saying fr ages anything above 210 is detrimental to his speed and fluidity. But he's clearly not as sharp now as he was even just 2 years ago
     
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    For me haven’t seen an angle that looks low
     
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    I think Usyk may have got away with 1 tonight.
     
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    :thumbsup:
     
  14. Hanz Cholo

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    :jaja-no:
     
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    I don't think the ref fully saw that shot. It was kind of hard to determine with even various replays. He gave Usyk the benefit of the doubt when he saw him rolling around. If he counted him out at that point good luck walking out alive lol with all those Ukrainian and maybe some Polish fanatics. The commission should review it though to be fair.