Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Dec 14, 2023.

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Higher ring IQ

Poll closed Dec 21, 2023.
  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

    81.5%
  2. Terence Crawford

    18.5%
  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    The average boxing IQ is higher today then the last century so Crawford by default.
     
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  2. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Evidence!!!!
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually I'm not even a Mayweather fan you're just talking about a subject you have no clue about

    Castillo beat Stevie Johnston, Diego Corrales, Joel Casamayor, those 3 names alone eclipse any win that the likes of Shawn Porter ever had. Add the fact he's the only fighter who realistically has a good argument to beating a prime Floyd Mayweather Jr ,and was also Lineal Lightweight champion then it's quite obvious Castillo is a quality fighter.

    So when you tell me Shawn Porter is better than Castillo which is nonsense, or that a tiny Gamboa moving up to Lightweight is better than Castillo which is also nonsense, or when you tell me "Castillo is not that good" it insults my intelligence.

    I never claimed Castillo is an "ATG" i said he's a lower tier worthy HOF who was a very good Lightweight, and he would be Crawford's 2nd best win on his resume which is true.
     
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  4. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Floyd in my view but it’s just my view.
    Floyd has been in the ring with legendary boxers and always avoided taking real punishment for the vast majority of his fights.

    Crawford is a highly skilled ring IQ assassin. He has a different approach compared to Floyd. I would say Crawford might be the highest ring IQ of current active boxers today. He is a stone cold killer
     
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  5. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What? Spence is way ahead of Judah
     
  6. Joeywill

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    I don't see how that first McGirtt vs Whitaker fight was a draw.
     
  7. Joeywill

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    I don't think mean machine is better than JLC. Gamboa probably isn't either.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Saying Mean Machine is better than Castillo is absurd.

    And a small Gamboa who didn't belong at Lightweight is certainly not better than Castillo at Lightweight.
     
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  9. BoxingIQ

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    I'm talking about that version of Spence
     
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    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    7-5 Pernell. Second fight was absolute wizardry from Pernell
     
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  11. bjl12

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    I respect that you have an opinion. It is simply wrong.

    JLC is closer to Victor Ortiz than he is to the HOF. JLC beating olf Corrales after old/shot Corrales stopped him is not impressive...and the exact same thing happened w Casamayor.

    By your metric anyone that goes 1-1 w an opponent is an ATG and HOF, low-tier or otherwise.
     
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    It is okay to disagree about things. P4P I have Gamboa and Postol and Mean Machine beating JLC. His best performance was a 115-113 either way/draw w Floyd. He also beat Casamayor and Corrales after they knocked him out. Dude was tough and grinded but just didnt and doesnt move the bar for me.
     
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  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand but that Spence was coming off arguably his best performance of his career vs Ugas. Hard to know how much of that Crawford win was Crawfords greatness vs Spence not being the same.
     
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  14. Joeywill

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    I have to rewatch it but I dont remember thinking it was that close
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You cant convince haters. Theyre like Trumpers...will call a square a circle regardless of any and all evidence.

    Dont waste your time w this kiddo