Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

No I don't take drugs simpleton.

JLC stopped 3 or 4 times prior to fighting Mayweather ? Obviously your a casual looking up on Boxrec something you accused me of even though you called McCallum "a basic fighter from highlights" if that isn't the biggest casual comment I don't know what it is. Castillo was never off his feet and that was early in his career.

Castillo not that good of a fighter ? Oh dear why am I wasting time discussing a topic with someone who hasn't got a clue ?

What do car crashes have to do with boxing ? I'm not even going to answer that with a serious reply if you honestly can't work that out for yourself.

Gamboa at Lightweight is better than Castillo are you serious ? Porter better than Castillo dear me....nah I'm sorry I can't read anymore I'm actually losing braincells, I'm done with this conversation you don't know what you're talking about my guy and that showed with McCallum comment in another thread I'm done bye.

 

So you make this drawn out post attacking Bud's resume because some of his opponents werent perfect:

And you say JLC is better than any of those fighters because some of them had losses or had inactivity periods, but you cant apply the same principle to JLC who, like Porter, Spence, Gamboa, Postol, or pretty much any fighter ever, had periods of inactivity or been hurt or lost, etc.

Essentially your post boils down to a, "trust me bro." Why you want to die on this JLC hill I have no idea, but JLC was not an ATG and is not a HOF in a world where Arturo Gatti is a HOF fighter. JLC was never more than a contender and only became champion at all because its a 4 belt era. That's the reality...sorry if it doesnt fit in your Floyd colored shades.

Is what it is, lil fella

 

Love, like, hate or debate, but Floyd was a ring genius. Knew where he was at all times

 

The average boxing IQ is higher today then the last century so Crawford by default.

 

Evidence!!!!

 

Actually I'm not even a Mayweather fan you're just talking about a subject you have no clue about

Castillo beat Stevie Johnston, Diego Corrales, Joel Casamayor, those 3 names alone eclipse any win that the likes of Shawn Porter ever had. Add the fact he's the only fighter who realistically has a good argument to beating a prime Floyd Mayweather Jr ,and was also Lineal Lightweight champion then it's quite obvious Castillo is a quality fighter.

So when you tell me Shawn Porter is better than Castillo which is nonsense, or that a tiny Gamboa moving up to Lightweight is better than Castillo which is also nonsense, or when you tell me "Castillo is not that good" it insults my intelligence.

I never claimed Castillo is an "ATG" i said he's a lower tier worthy HOF who was a very good Lightweight, and he would be Crawford's 2nd best win on his resume which is true.

 

Floyd in my view but it’s just my view.
Floyd has been in the ring with legendary boxers and always avoided taking real punishment for the vast majority of his fights.

Crawford is a highly skilled ring IQ assassin. He has a different approach compared to Floyd. I would say Crawford might be the highest ring IQ of current active boxers today. He is a stone cold killer

 

Saying Mean Machine is better than Castillo is absurd.

And a small Gamboa who didn't belong at Lightweight is certainly not better than Castillo at Lightweight.

 

I'm talking about that version of Spence

 

7-5 Pernell. Second fight was absolute wizardry from Pernell

 

I respect that you have an opinion. It is simply wrong.

JLC is closer to Victor Ortiz than he is to the HOF. JLC beating olf Corrales after old/shot Corrales stopped him is not impressive...and the exact same thing happened w Casamayor.

By your metric anyone that goes 1-1 w an opponent is an ATG and HOF, low-tier or otherwise.

 

It is okay to disagree about things. P4P I have Gamboa and Postol and Mean Machine beating JLC. His best performance was a 115-113 either way/draw w Floyd. He also beat Casamayor and Corrales after they knocked him out. Dude was tough and grinded but just didnt and doesnt move the bar for me.