Comparing Wilder and Vitali

There I must respectfully disagree.

I will respect a score card where the person scoring the fight had a different take on it to me.

However I will not respect a scorecard that bears no relation to the events that took place in the ring.

 

You don’t like the facts that I laid out, but they’re still facts.

 

The ref saved Fury's career when Wilder knocked him down in the 1st fight.

As for the thread, yes Vitali is only marginally better or roughly equivalent to Wilder in terms of achievements. Vitali is the more well rounded and threatening fighter in terms of overall ability/h2h, but not by a lot.

 

If we're being brutally honest, no, Peter and Sanders are not a whole lot better than Ortiz and Stiverne whether we're talking resume or ability.

 

Yes they are.

 

No they are not.

Samuel Peter and Stiverne are fairly close in ability and careers. Both filled a similar niche in their eras as big, slow, ponderous clubbers. I would actually argue Stiverne had better fundamentals than Peter, but Peter hit a little harder and was better at throwing combinations.

Same with Ortiz and Sanders. Pretty comparable. I would say Sanders was slightly more talented and had the better signature win over a young Wladmir, Ortiz was more technically sound and stronger.

There really isn't a whole let separating them.

 

Stiverne gets sold short. There weren't that many guys his size who had that combo of being tough and technically sound.

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Given Wilder's victory over Chisora: a fighter who is arguably a top 2 Vitali win, any gap between them in Vitali's favour has narrowed further.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...n-vitali-klitschko-and-deontay-wilder.714647/

 

Vitali did beat a younger and better Chisora tbf and he did so more clearly.

But Wilder does deserve some credit for that Chisora win.

 

Wilder was almost universally regarded as more shot than Chisora when he beat him, I think correctly. Vitali was coming off a very solid performance against Adamek where no one suggested serious decline.

Wilder dropped Chisora multiple times and may well have stopped him if not for a bodyguard referee. Vitali was also more worn down relative to Wilder at the end of the fight, even though he'd won more rounds.

Wilder was in hostile territory with multiple officials against him, Vitali was the home fighter.

So it's a lot fuzzier imo. There is always a tendency to discredit Wilder but for me, the bottom line is they both beat Chisora and he is among their very best wins.