Why wasn't James Toney good at Light Heavyweight ?

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, this is a weird one. I think the loss to Jones was a big mental blow which it took time to recover from, and by the time he fought Jirov I think he'd started juicing.
     
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    he probably had a worse period in his career, which often happens to undisciplined fighters. They don't train properly all the time, they are not always 100%. Ray Mercer is an example...
     
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    Aye, you beat me to it Bok with the mental aspect of the Jones defeat, good point. Must have been a big blow to someone of Toneys truculent nature and high opinion of himself as an old school throwback to be humbled so badly in the biggest fight of his career.
     
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    Yeah, he showed up with a gun at his manager's house after the fight, blaming her for the loss. He lost the plot.
     
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    I was thinking more like Sonny Bryan's BBQ.
     
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    Did he really what the hell I didn't know that.
     
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    On a Monday Night baseball game, Cosell was arguing with the late great Bob Uecker. Cosell told Bob he was being truculent and I bet you don't know what that word means. Uecker said with no hesitation Yes I do. If you lent me a truck, that would be a truck you lent.
     
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    I think by the time he was fighting at 175 he was having too much difficulty managing his weight
     
  11. Bokaj

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    I think that's a myth. He came in at 182 for the CW rubber with McCallum. 8 lbs under the limit for that fight, and just 7 lbs over the LHW limit. That shouldn't be much of an issue with the day befor weigh-in.
     
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    Depends on how hard he had to kill himself to get to that 182 and was still over the light heavy limit.
     
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    It was 8 lbs under the weight limit. So obviously he didn't rehydrate after the weigh-in. His weight must have been pretty much the same in the ring. And with an in ring weight of just over 180, making 175 at the weigh-in shouldn`t be much of a problem.
     
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    I don't know why he took those bouts against Griffin.

    Years before that Griffin was up at Galaxy, for a couple of days, giving James fits sparring.
     
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    I find it hilarious. The guy is bragging about being unable to wait to slam into a whole heap of BK. It sums him up well.
     
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