Was Ali a Klitschko level clincher?

Usually, when Holmes was hurt, he was trading back, not clinching. He wasn't much of a clincher at all.

 

Couldn't agree more

 

There’s a reason you haven’t seen highlights or rarely hear about Frazier vs Ali 2. Ali clinched more than Wlad did against Povetkin making the fight unwatchable. He definitely mastered the clinch style.

 

I think that's a little bit too much.

 

no it is not go back and watch the fight then count clinches initiated by Ali.

 

I've watched it recently. Wasn't more than Wlad vs Povetkin.

 

The difference is Ali initiated all those clinches in Wlad vs Povetkin both fighters initiated clinches

 

This is literally just saying both clinched but because I like Ali more its okay when he does it (btw Ali had a size advantage against both of his opponents as well)

 

That's all true, but still Klitschko clinched a lot more than Ali in the Frazier rematch.

 

That would actually be an interesting stat, he clinched tons v Foreman too.

 

Wlad was a cheat.

 

exactly.

 

go back and count clinches initiated by Ali vs Frazier then count the clinches initiated by Klitschko vs Povetkin ( not including clinches initiated by the opposing fighter.) then after counting from both fights come back with a count ill do the same and see who initiated more clinches.. ( I have already done this BTW but will do it again ) you are going to be surprised.
remember when Povetkin dives in and wraps his arm immediately around Klitschko's back that is Povetkin clinching.
Link below is just a small example part of round 7 tell me who initiates more clinches here just to get you warmed up.
https://external-preview.redd.it/DT...p4&s=a055579d24d9c5ff2ecde7e20ec1ddb9ab56bff0

 

Yeah people romance Ali vs Frazier 2 without going back and objectively watching it, It was an historical fight but not a pretty one.