Floyd Mayweather vs Roberto Duran at 135 pounds 15 rounds

Duran by commanding UD.

 

I can tell you have never ever boxed before, you didn't even rebuttal a single point of mine, casual fan, when you argue at least put some effort into you stuff and give me an IN-DEPTH breakdown of how he will win, if we argue, at least make it entertaining for me. You just say he wins this he wins that without giving me a reason. What is Duran better than Floyd at besides power?

 

Hmmmm, I didn't know it was "Alt Day" in the forum.

Actually, I didn't even know we were engaged in some kind of discussion, and currently not interested on rebuttal or counter-rebuttal.

I have my opinion, you have your opinion. No need to argue. Each one can be happy on his own way.

Kindly take your righteous indignation to somebody else who pay you proper interest and attention.

Bye.

 

And mentality like this is why we keep debating who our world leaders should be, one day when you faced with a IRL challenge that tests your mental fortitude, you won't be able to shy away from it, I hope you learn from this experience and hope for the best that it won't bite you in the ass.

 

Have some dignity please and at least give your 2 cents that are worth half a buck, you the type of people who keep letting the world decide to make your own decisions.

 

Duran's inside game is better and more versatile than Floyd's. Floyd liked to utilise the elbow and forearm to frame and then throw the uppercut or right hand off of it. Alternately, Floyd would throw a hook not with the intention of landing, but to gain head control so that he could guiide an opponent into a clinch. Then he'd release and fire a hook or right. Great tactics and they worked well a lot fo the time.

But...Duran's too quick and defensively aware to allow himself to get guided into a clinch, and is good enough at positioning his head to avoid getting framed and uppercutted. In between he'll be working the body, firing uppercut and hooks of his own, mauling Floyd a little and generally appearing to be more effective -even if Floyd defends well.

Duran's jab was good enough to control a very stylish Ken Buchanan and that right hand followed it pretty quickly. Floyd can roll the right but he's probably not keeping Duran away for the entire fight. Definitely not for fifteen. At some point in the championship rounds, Duran is going to either take control, or will at least appear to take control and Floyd's going to have some difficulty banking rounds on the cards after that.

Floyd doesn't go easily or quietly and there are iterations of lightweight Duran that I'd pick him to beat. But if were taking the best version of Duran that eviscerated DeJesus in their third fight against the best version of lightweight Floyd (say the one who stopped Ndou), I'm taking Duran to win close more often than not.

Hope that analysis is sufficient.

 

Here's a little context: They got mad at me for creating a thread that proved Mayweather had a better career than Duran, so they made a thread pretending that Duran would beat Mayweather so they could validate their feelings.

Here's the thread:
https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...n-floyd-mayweather-and-manny-pacquiao.683550/

 

Well, I mean, Mayweather beat Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero so it seems pretty clear that he would beat Duran.

 

There we go that is sufficient and I appreciate you for showing off your boxing knowledge but of course there's echelon's to this. Everyone who debates against Mayweather always makes the mistake of "assuming" what he will do when even the best boxing coaches fail to solve Mayweather's style. Mayweather only uses elbow against Southpaws, people say Mayweather will do this and Mayweather will do that, and that already loses them the argument because you don't know what Mayweather will do, and we can argue all day about what Mayweather will do and do that. I could be Mayweather right now and you would never know what I would answer. I just ask what can Duran do better than Floyd and you answered that gracefully, inside game, which while is true, Floyd's IQ and his reach won't allow Duran to get inside. "Floyd would throw a hook not with the intention of landing, but to gain head control so that he could guiide an opponent into a clinch, Hatton would like a word with you." "Floyd would do this, he WOULD do that, if there's anything we learned from his 50 fights only FLOYD knows what he would do and what he wouldn't do" no such thing as a stylistic matchup if you can adapt to all styles and you yourself is like Bruce Lee's water, formless. That's just truth, the truth is Mayweather is too advanced and too ahead of Duran's era, that's just facts. Floyd's father faced Ray Leonard who literally made Duran quit, so Mayweather already has the intelligence advantage. And that ladies and gentleman is a masterclass on how you dissect and break down a Floyd Mayweather hater surgically, just like how Mayweather breaks down his opponents surgically. Seeing Floyd box has its perks ya know?

 

I've watched 200 fights, and while that's not a good sample size I can confidently say a good jab doesn't nullify hand speed. Floyd hand's move at the speed of light and hit so hard that he breaks his own hands. You could blame that on Brittle hands but I remember Hearns broke his hand trying to punch Marvin Hagler's titanium skull, it's not out of the possibility. Floyd jab is good too, Floyd jab better than Duran's so why bring up jab when Floyd has the most educated jab of all time like what? Going against Mayweather can cause some to make outlandish boxing statements man, not saying you are since you can disguise some of your debate flaws with well-timed nuanced English but to a veteran debater that won't work on me but, I just don't see Mayweather losing. Neither gets KO'd or stopped and Floyd wins on points. Can we at least agree on that, I watched both and I like both, so I am not biased, just giving you pure factual claims and logic. That's all, good debate man, no hard vibes.

 

Duran did have a better career but I like Floyd resume better, I favor Floyd's resume slightly more than Duran's because Floyd's resume is quality over quantity and Duran is quantity over quality, Duran did fight quality opponents but he lost to them, but, I'll see what's up, I'll see what's up

 

Totally stupid. Floyd has nothing to make Duran quit with. Floyd can't make it to 15 rounds against Duran, he's no Ray Leonard.

 

I just watched Emanuel Augustus fighting Mayweather yesterday,and while he lost,but he gives some blueprint of what could Duran do best.

Firstly, Floyd's tactics vs these pressure fighters is to use jabs to pepper their face,and keeping them on a distance with those long frames, Emanuel usually charged forward straight with hands up protecting his sides,leaving his face square for those jabs.


Then when they got closer Floyd usually uses his cross to discourage them from going further inside,if they duck he would frame the back of the head like what he did vs Maidana.

Duran's main job here will be ducking those jabs and trading it with his own punches in response, considering he could control the arm and body too,I think he could quite handle Mayweather's frame games,maybe a tough UD or SD for 15 because Duran was very good at wearing down fighters at the championship rounds.

And again though,so far the way I saw people defeat Duran were by actually moving or bullying him with their size,only Benitez succeeded in flat footed counterpunching vs Duran,and that was one of Duran's worse shapes.

 

Ah so if we saw the blueprint of what Augustus could do to Floyd, we could see the blueprint of how Floyd would do to Duran, which is to make Duran quit since Floyd made Augustus quit right? You can't use winning fights as sample because everybody say they have the blueprint but no one executes it *SMH. Who the hell uses a losing fight as a blue print for what a better fighter could do, Duran does not have Augustus chin, and Augustus lost that fight, using a losing fight as a blueprint has to be one of the worst debate tactics I ever seen, this argument alone proves you just a Duran **** rider bruh, honestly bruh YDK how to debate you just like to glaze your glorious Panamanian coke dealer Duran. Floyd a better counter puncher and better defender than Benitez, so you literally gave me the blueprint to Duran, how silly LMFAO.

 

You just made the same mistake the other guy did, every Mayweather anti-fan in question makes the same mistake of ASSUMING what he would do, you don't assume what Floyd would do, he fights differently to every fighter, OMG how hard is it to understand that man? Dang