People discrediting Dubois’ level

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thank you
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, I thought on his win streak he had improved ,especially the Joshua fight but against Usyk I thought he regressed and looked awful.
     
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  3. Overseas

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    Moses Itauma disagrees ;)
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  4. catchwtboxing

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    In beating Hrgovic to legitimize what was an e-mail title, and then beating Joshua, who has a significant legacy in the sport, Dubois has already guaranteed that he will be remembered. People can dump on him as they will.

    If he wants to add to those accomplishments, he has plenty of time. Just no more Usyk fights.
     
  5. Ding ding ding!

    Ding ding ding! Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pretty sure we don't recognise the 3 KD rule in Britain.
     
  6. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Dubious can KO a lot of people but is a quitter, and isn't very tough for a 'champion'. That means anyone who can weather the bombs can probably grind him down. Or if they have a big punch, KO him properly.

    For instance, it wouldn't surprise me if AJ beat him in a rematch if he doesn't get caught early.
    But it doesn't mean Dubious isn't dangerous which he obviously is.

    Let's make it simple. If you get KO'd by Usyk twice at HW, as a big HW, there is something wrong with you. Either you have bad punch resistance or you are a quitter, or a bit of both.

    But just because there's something wrong with him it doesn't mean he can't KO plenty of opponents.
     
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  7. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    If Dubois isn't damaged then Ortiz gets ko'ed. Huni too.
     
  8. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think a big part of it is he had 2 losses before he became a champ and he flipped the script with the Hrgovic and Joshua wins. A lot of the praise he was getting was based on the possibility he'd developed into the best HW. And the Usyk rematch suggests that wasn't the case. Now you wonder if Hrgovic would win a rematch and if others could have beaten AJ in Dubois's place if they'd gotten that chance.

    In this era fans do not forgive clear losses no matter who they are against. Every loss is treated as a referendum on whether a fighter is "for real". Unless they are Derek Chisora.

    There might be no shame in losing to Usyk. But Dubois is the only title opponent Usyk has KO'd at HW and hes done it twice now. Usyks lost 26 rounds at HW. 2 of them are to Dubois.
     
  9. LoveThis

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    Lol gervonta davis would probably argue that you can. At least when grease from your hair bothers you. 'i'll take a short break, just stay there for a moment'
     
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  10. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did quit vs Joe Joyce, no one can say otherwise. Fight was in the balance on the cards and he quit.

    I’ve no issue with the last fight, he didn’t quit imo, just got caught with a cracking shot
     
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  11. LoveThis

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    Didn't know about the 3kd rule either, but they stopped a round 9 seconds early.
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He lost to Joyce, more losses will be coming soon
     
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  13. rolzone

    rolzone Active Member Full Member

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    For all intents and purposes Fury got KOed by usyk. These are heavyweights and they can punch. No shame getting knocked out by a clean heavyweight punch. Usyk isn’t pillow fisted
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Miller is an obese 300+ pound blubberball.

    Dubois headbutted Hrgovic to oblivion that win has an asterisk over it.

    It's not even close to an A+ win Dubois has power yes but he lacks boxing IQ is on the chinny side and has a suspect mentality he's quit in two fights. And alot of people think he mentally checked out vs Usyk the 2nd time aswell but make of that what you will.

    A+ wins are.....

    Foreman destroying Frazier

    Ali beating Foreman

    Bowe beating Holyfield

    How can it be an A+ win for Usyk beating the same opponent again who he won every round against previously and made him quit after a jab ?

    Dubois is not even close to a great and never will be its not an A+ win at all not even close.

    Dubois will also have alot more losses in the future to Parker, Kabayel, and Itauma if he's as good as the hype suggests.

    Hell even Hrgovic in a rematch if a referee would actually penalise Dubois for 20+ headbutts would stand a decent chance.
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    The desperation to discredit Usyk reeks from you. Can smell it from a mile away. Just say you don’t like Usyk.