1990 Evander Holyfield vs prime Abe Simon

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Who wins and how

  1. Holyfield KO/TKO

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  2. Simon KO/TKO

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  3. Holyfield Decision

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  4. Simon Decision

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  5. Draw

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Apparently Abe had a bit of success first time around:

    All Abe Simon had to do to make Joe (Louis) fumble like a novice was to feint him fast, and you can imagine what Billy Conn will do to a fellow who fumbles like that. And he had Joe very tired by the ninth round. If Joe tired under a pace like that imagine what a fast-moving Conn will do to him. He'll gore the champ to death.“ -Tommy Walsh

    Not sure how true this description of the fight is though, potential off night for Joe?
     
    Melankomas, Sep 16, 2025 at 3:03 PM
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  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Know who else could give 'Vander fits who is another Abe? Shinzo Abe.
     
    Boxed Ears, Sep 16, 2025 at 3:55 PM
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    Homericlegend03 Member Full Member

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    Holy is way better than Simon and he had an insane gastank, I see a Holy round 5 ko
     
    Homericlegend03, Sep 16, 2025 at 4:06 PM
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Simon lasted 13 rounds with Louis the 1st time around.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Sep 16, 2025 at 4:19 PM
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  5. USFBulls727

    USFBulls727 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, according to the write-up of the bout on Boxrec, Simon put up a pretty good fight. I wish there was footage of this. I'd be genuinely interested in seeing how Abe was able to make it competitive. He showed a lot of heart in the rematch, but not much else...

    https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Joe_Louis_vs._Abe_Simon_(1st_meeting)
     
    USFBulls727, Sep 16, 2025 at 5:23 PM
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    So he potentially would make things difficult for Holyfield
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Sep 16, 2025 at 5:38 PM
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  7. USFBulls727

    USFBulls727 Active Member Full Member

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    The only footage I've seen of him, he's basically getting hit with everything, and constantly staggering around the ring. Based on the Louis footage, no way I see him causing Holyfield any problems whatsoever. How that guy supposedly put up a good fight with Louis the 1st time around, making it to the 13th is a mystery to me. He couldn't even get out of the 3rd round vs. Buddy Baer.
     
    USFBulls727, Sep 16, 2025 at 6:42 PM
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