Is Having A 2 Fight Option A Sign Of Fear?

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It's a 3 fight option. Haye has to fight Wlad, then Vitali if he wins, and then Wlad again if he wins that fight.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    You talkin ta me?

    You talkin ta ME??
     
  3. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    No matter who's idea the clause is, it is a sign of hedging bets.
     
  4. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I don't follow that division closely, but I would have to think you are misrepresenting this. It would be Chad Dawson inserting that clause this time around. The belt still has commercial value to the holder, hence the clause.
     
  5. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A two fight option is great if you are planning on throwing the fight. Just imagine the amount of money the rematch would make.

    Haye has a punchers chance - so with that being said - it's just a smart move by the Klits.
     
  6. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Simple:NO.
    It's about money,exposure,etc.Basically they're careers.
     
  7. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It only becomes a 3 fight option if he wins - which includes the fight that's at hand.
     
  8. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no i dont see it as fear, more of a safty net for the "what if", i mean even a ****** can hit the lottery.

    its like saying a collage football standout has a degree in law for his "what if i dont get drafted". Its not that hes not confident but **** man anything can happen.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I know that. That much is pretty obvious.
     
  10. boxingwriter

    boxingwriter Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I think so, notice how few 2 fight options there are when a title holder is hugely favoured to win a fight. It is obviously a way for boxers to cover their ass should they be beaten, so it is a sign of doubt at least.
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For some....maybe. I find it hard to say boxers at this level of the game being afraid. Cautious, concerned or respectful on some level YES, absolutely.

    These guys who are top or Elite fighters are not scared or have any kind of fear, but they do understand that at this level anyone can win or loose on any given night. Having a 2 fight clause is re-assurance for the fighter in case they have an off night or someone lands a "lucky punch".

    You can call it fear, but fear would most likely prevent a fight from even taking place, let alone agreeing to a SECOND fight when one of the fighters does loose.
     
  12. Hermit

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    OK WWM. Care to tell us Paul Williams NEVER had one and never will?
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no you actually had a good ?
    what are you trying to say?
    you didnt even type your question in a readable fashion
     
  14. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    I don't know, rereading it and it seems fine to me, but OK.

    You are trying to make out that any fighter with a 2nd fight option clause is a coward. Let's phrase it properly. Fear = Cowardice. Not sure why someone would sign the first fight, let alone a second if that were true, but.... Let's go with it.

    Are you saying your boy Paul Williams is such a MAN that he HAS NEVER and WILL NEVER have a second fight option in a contract because that would mean he was afraid? A coward? Even if his title is on the line?
     
  15. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fear is far different from Doubt. Anyone can have doubts....even the best of the best b/c no one controls fate. An ELITE Level athlete can set themselves up to prevent the upset or loss by doing the things to get in tip top condition but at this level ANYTHING can happen and you'd be a fool to think you are invincible. Hence the 2 fight clause. If it were fear a TWO FIGHT clause wouldn't be a factor. Getting just ONE fight with a scared fighter would be a task in itself let alone and rematch if you are the "Scared" fighter. Unless you are a sacraficial lamb looking for a payday.