Is Manny Pacquiao a top 20 Atg

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From the ATG stand point Cotto is still unproven while both PBF and Mosley
    have top 100 ATG spot. So beating Cotto will only be historical if Cotto
    earns his ATG spot in the future (which isn't certain), beating PBF or Mosley
    (fighters who are currently listed on most people ATG list and still top 10 p4p)
    gives PAC proper lift up.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    This list is a joke. :lol:You took ESPNs list and made some minor changes, please, next time be less obvious. PAc out of the top 50:rofl Thank God its "your" list
     
  3. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Er, no ?
     
  4. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Jack Johnson at 20....
     
  5. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:..at least there's no William Joppy this time.
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Who has Pac beat to put him in the company of DLH ... DLH fought and beat some credible guys ...

    He fought Hopkin, Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Gatti, Vargas, Mayorga, JCC, Pernell Whitaker, Castillejo, Hernandez, Campos, and Ruelas

    Those guys are good quality guys are pretty good fighters and 6 or 7 of those guys are hall of famers ... 2 of them have over 100 fights for their careers ... all were champions ... all of those name ring a bell ... and DLH has over 25 championship fights.

    When you look at Pac's resume all you see is Morales, Barrera, DLH, Marquez, and Hatton, David Diaz... all those wins and or fights have question marks behind them. He doesn't even have 20 title fights like some of those other guys.
     
  7. Trendkiller

    Trendkiller 420 Full Member

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    Yea he is, older guys will think not because no one will ever be as good as their generation, but he is, he's the best p4p since SRL imo.
     
  8. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know what yo you have a point i dont like oscar so i didnt realize this. yo man yall hype pacman way to much seriously
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Mayweather's record
    Tito Trinidad's record
    Roy Jones Record
    Joe Calzaghe's record
    Bernard Hopkins record

    All those guys are elite fighters and yet they're not ranked as high as top 20 on most experts, writers, and historians lists ... all those guys have well over 20 championship fights ... fought atleast - if not more than 10 champions and have won big fights against their era's best ... Pac hasn't fought this era's best.
     
  10. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Ray Robinson floated between welterweight and middleweight for some years ... and alot of them weren't even title fights ... he was just fighting ... 97 wins before his first loss ... having 100's of fights with only a hand full of losses ... only been KO'd once and that was by the heat.

    Roy Jones ... held every belt there was out there in the LHW division and had well over 20 championship fights ...

    Calzaghe ... 20 consecutive defenses ...

    Hopkins fought 6 solid hall of fame fighters ... DLH, Tito, Wright,Tarver, Jones, and Calzaghe
    20 consecutive defenses
    Pernell Whitaker - enough said

    Leonard - enough said

    Hearns - enough said

    Chavez - record for championship fights and victories - over 100 career bouts ...

    Duran

    Mayweather - fought 3 primed undefeated fighters ... 20-0 in title fights ... legit 3 time linear champion ... Castillo, Corrales, Hernandez, DLH, Gatti, Judah, Hatton, Manfredy, and now Marquez.
     
  11. AW0L

    AW0L Active Member Full Member

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    no even with a mayweather win he might not hit 20
     
  12. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    agreed ... for him to hit top 20 he would have to beat Cotto, Mosley, and Mayweather ...
     
  13. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    What the ****?
    Why?
    Valero? **** off. Ludicrous.
     
  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    EEEH! *******s just got owned, I couldn't have put it any better. Great Post Fitzgerald
     
  15. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I think youre mistaken Pac with Fraud.