Question About Cotto - Clottey Round 1...

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  1. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No but it loses you a point. 10-9 or 10-8 is acceptable, infact looking back I should've gone with 10-8, I just didn't want to as it was such a close round.
     
  2. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    IMO, It has to be scored 10-8 regardless...
    I defo understand the idea.
    But even rounds are weak.....unless they are forced to flip a coin
    (That decides who won) Which will never happen, But maybe it is better....
     
  3. dzesmin7

    dzesmin7 Active Member Full Member

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    What if Clottey knocked Cotto down with a shitty punch in the last 5 seconds of round 6 in that fight?

    You're telling me that means its all of a sudden a 10-8 round to Josh?

    That's bull****.
     
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    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I'd have to do it.. 10-8
     
  5. dzesmin7

    dzesmin7 Active Member Full Member

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    The commentator on Setanta (I think they used HBO's comentary didn't they?) had the 1st round as a tie....
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Not sure bro, Maybe the "Top Rank" PPV people?

    But yeah, See that's the flaw in the scoring system.
    Even rounds/Draw create prob's in tab total points.
    (I say the even rd should be a No-Go! & banned)

    Just pick one or the other.
    (They do anayway, w/Even rd's they get to play to much of a factor)
     
  7. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yes,10-8.

    Anyway the example is bad as Cotto clearly won the 6th and the first was razor thin.
     
  8. dzesmin7

    dzesmin7 Active Member Full Member

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    The example highlights what a bull**** rule it is, if it is a mandatory rule that is.
     
  9. Shattered Glass

    Shattered Glass Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The first round is a clear Cotto round with the KD, 10-8 and no debate should be had.

    The example of Clottey knocking Cotto down in the last seconds of round 6 is an interesting one. In my eyes that would be a 10-10 round... Cotto dominated the round, Clottey scored a KD (although it would then depend how bad the KD was.....)

    It's a very interesting debate, the answer is somewhat subjective.
     
  10. carras

    carras Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it was a close round until the kd so it was a 10-8 in my opinion
     
  11. Mike_S

    Mike_S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree, but then theoretically you would have had to make that a 10-8 round for Cotto, which I never, but if he did give Cotto a flash KD at the end of that round then I would've scored it 10-10.
     
  12. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL

    How can there be 100 posts about this?

    It's really simple, a knockdown gives you a lot of extra "weight" for the round. That is totally justifiable. So if Clottey is a little ahead, but knocked down in the end, it's 10-8 Cotto because that knockdown overrides a lot of the work that Clottey did. However if Clottey had been WAY ahead, then the knock down obviously doesn't mean you ignore the rest of the entire round. How could that possibly be justified? It would be an even round in that case.
     
  13. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What a difference a knockdown makes.[/quote]


    Thats right !!!!

    Otherwise Marquez would be 2 up on Manny !!!!
     
  14. Shane_Erich

    Shane_Erich Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10-8 Cotto. The round was very close before the knockdown. And it wasn't a slip, he got put down with a jab, not hurt just put down.
     
  15. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I will always score a round like that 10-8. If Cotto had have knocked Clottey down at the end of the 7th I would have scored it 10-9....but there was a clear distinction between Clottey winning round 1 (close but clear), and winning round 7 (domination).

    I noticed some people bringing up Cunningham vs Adamek and there was one round in that fight that I scored 10-9 Adamek even though he got the knockdown. For me he was being brutilized before that.