Has anyone seen JMM ~vs~ Chris John?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    If so, what are your thoughts on the fight?
     
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    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it was closer then milman says...Marquez didnt look all that good against John's approach.

    But he CLEARLY won...If you havent seen it rummy check the "Two Questions About Juan Manuel Marquez" thread.
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Marquez won. Clearly, IMHO. The whole thing was an excercise. John was awared the winner by the telecasters, officials, and judges before Juan Manuel's plane even landed in the country. The confetti was set to go off on a timer.
     
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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Will check it out momentarily.
    :good

    So is that more or less a unanimous consensus amongst fans who saw this?

    That JMM clearly deserved to win?
     
  5. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    I saw like two rounds and said "THE HELL WITH THIS" it was dreadful
     
  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very few argue it for John...and the ones that do have very weak arguments thats are pretty much swept aside as soon as video evidence is provided.

    Two people I have spoken to who were at the fight saw it for John...but watching a fight at the venue is not always the best way to score it.
     
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    8 for Marquez
    2 for John
    2 even for bogus point deductions
     
  8. Soriano

    Soriano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched the fight in Youtube expecting a Chris John win. I was disappointed. Although I'm Pac fan, I saw it as a win for Marquez. He delivered the most telling blows. IMO, he was robbed in Indonesia.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Are there any ESB'ers around who are on record saying they believe John was the rightful winner?
     
  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    close fight with john with full intention to ride the hometown decision. Not taking any chances and all he had to do is throw punches and run but to his defense JMM is awful in cut of corners for he is a pure counter puncher.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    How did you score it?
     
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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    ......hmm, I've heard JMM speak that there were Indonesian fans walking up to him after the fight apologizing......I think even those rooting for John at ringside knew the whole fiasco was a con.
     
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    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you were live in front of me and said that, I'd shake your *******ed hand for your honesty.;):D
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    They were both aussies that said this...Needless to say they probably had some affiliation with John's trainer..But I dont know for sure.
     
  15. Soriano

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    You may call me *******ed or anything but I give credit where credit is due. Next topic should be: Who fought better against Juarez? JMM or John? I'll be posting a thread on this.