ATG: Who Ranks Higher, Pacquiao or Arguello?

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  1. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pac is higher but head to head i see arguello beating him decisively or by late ko/tko
     
  2. DobyZhee

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    I would compare arguello to a taller Rafael Marquez.

    Way to compare a recently dead guy to manny pacquiao. you should be shot.
     
  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought resume and accomplishments go hand in hand but that's me...
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I never knew how really underrated Alexis Arguello was on the general forum? Manny being a clearly better fighter than The Explosive Thin Man? I don't think so.

    Alexis became a three-weight world champion when the belts still meant something, and holds wins over Olivares, Limon, Chacon, Edwards, Kobayashi, Escalera, etc. He is arguably the greatest puncher of all time when factoring in not only his raw power but his perfect technique. Practically all of his signature wins came by knockout. All of that achieved when 15 rounds was the standard.

    In a H2H sense, just add more power and height to Juan Manuel Marquez, as well as making him even more textbook and his straight right hand even longer. That would be Alexis Arguello.
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this the *******s way to give respect to a recently passed away ATG? :-(
     
  6. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    aint like any1's slapping him across the face, theres nothing wrong with asking who's the greater fighter of 2 ATGs

    people here are a little too sensitive sometimes, but uhh...back to the question, Pacman clearly has accomplished more, i dont see much of an argument for Arguello being greater then Pacman
     
  7. snell

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    you are too sensitive as if you are having your period.. the TS is just asking. typical pacteron and insecure.
     
  8. Small Print

    Small Print All Lies Full Member

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    It's just a discussion about him... no-one's insulting or disrespecting him.
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    rip aa
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    I agree with Selfkill. Arguello too underrated here.
     
  11. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    mike casey ranks arguello as the best 130 pounder ever...chavez is 2nd
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    asero is opening his daily "PacMan is ATG best" threads with obviously predictable Pro-Pac polls. He always choses fighters who rank lower than Pac so Manny can win the poll. Now AA is dead, it's another opportunity in his million threads to make PacMan look good - over an ATG's fresh body. :-(
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think in three of the weight classes that both Alexis and Pacquiao delved in, Arguello would rank higher all time. In fact, Alexis should be in the top 5 for Featherweight, arguably number 1 at Super Featherweight, and certainly a top 10 entrant for Lightweight. He got sufficient work done in every weight class he stepped into, not even ruling out 140lb, where he gave a beast in Peak Pryor his toughest fight despite being near the end of his career himself.

    Defending his titles at 126lb 4 times, whereas Manny Pacquiao only had one notable win as a Featherweight.

    Alexis never lost a fight at 130lb, making 8 title defences, whereas Pacquiao made less title defences and lost at the weight.

    Pacquiao has one fight at Lightweight against sub par opposition, whereas Alexis again stepped up a weight class won the title in Watt's backyard, and then defended it 4 times.

    There is not only a case for Arguello being higher than Manny, but I think he should be. Not by a huge margin, by Alexis was a multi-divisional title at a time when it was a rarity. He defended each of his titles multiple times, and was undefeated as a Super Featherweight.
     
  14. PH|LLA

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    BigBone you're a serious crybaby. Talking about Arguello in an ATG discussion is an honour to the man and his career and not disrespectful at all.
     
  15. Scar

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    Exactly.