Paul Williams is all wrong for Pavlik

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  1. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    :good as much as id like Williams to win, Pavlik is knocking him out.
     
  2. Ilesey

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    Pavlik will have trouble with Williams movement and combination punching. I can't see a stoppage here, but it will be an interesting fight that's for damn sure!
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Williams throws a variety of punches, but that doesn't mean he has angles in the sense I mean. When I say "angles", I mean B-Hop-style feinting movement from range, jumping in from nowhere with semi-hooks, semi-uppercuts. That is not something PW does. He may use lots of different shots, but he throws them from an upright, static and square position.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    He drops the other hand a lot too. When he throws a left, he often drops the right. When he throws his right, he often drops his left. History says fighters with defensive flaws are in deep **** against Pavlik.
     
  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Pavlik the biggest hitting MW ????? very questionable comment .

    Williams split decision for me , this aint no suprise buddy !!!!!
     
  6. truushot

    truushot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams is way to fast for pavlik, and I doubt Williams can KO Pavlik.

    So I say Williams UD.
     
  7. bad

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    after hopkins this will be easy for kelly... ok not easy but kelly will win ..tko/ko im not sure.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Paul's hands are not any faster than Taylor's. Peterson claims PW will knock Pavlik out. In order to have any chance at that Paul will have to pick his shots and sit down on them. If he does that, he won't be as fast as Taylor.
     
  9. Charlie

    Charlie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    doesn't have it in him to knock Pavlik out imo.

    That being said, with the amount of shots that Paul throws your always in with a shout of having the fight stopped by the ref simply based on how many shots your taking off him, by the late rounds your going to have slowed anyway and Paul pretty much keeps up the same pace for 12 rounds.
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    I just plugged all the known data on both fighters (including their mother's birth weight) into my handy-dandy fight predictor probability program, and here's what it churned out:

    Probability of

    Pavlik win on points: 11 %
    Pavlik win by KO/TKO: 36 %

    DRAW: 2%

    Williams win by KO/TKO: 10 %
    Williams win on points: 41 %


    You can take that to your Bookie !
     
  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    You think my bookie needs a good laugh? :huh
     
  12. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Have you noticed what PW does EVERYTIME he throws his left from range?
     
  13. Guy

    Guy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    Are Pavlik and Williams reaches pretty similar?
     
  14. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams has shown the ability to move on slow fighter's like Matthysse and Margarito. Pavlik falls in the category of being slow.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Williams' reach 82"
    Pavlik's reach 75"

    The more important measurement is arm length.

    Williams, 25 1/2"
    Pavlik, 24 1/2"


    Jermain Taylor, 27"
    Edison Miranda 25 1/2"
    Margarito 24 1/2"