Valuev won

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    You can be right man, maybe I made a mistake scoring as I watched live. I'll grab the fight on high quality download sometime soon and watch again since I'm not getting any replays.
     
  2. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    What kind of atmosphere do you like?
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Paddy was talkin' to Sean, just after he came back from the moon.

    "Did you go into any of the bars up there, Sean ?" asked Paddy.

    "Aye, Ah did, but they weren't very good."

    "Why not ?" asked Paddy.

    " Sure there was no atmosphere" moaned Sean.
     
  4. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand that the op likes aggression.

    I do too, but EFFECTIVE aggression. HOW does missing for 12 rounds straight count as effective?
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Jim Watt had Valouev winning before the decision was announced. Watt said that Haye could not win the fight by just running and not throwing punches, but Haye's judges did what they did.

    Holyfield did much better than Haye.
    Ruiz did much better.
    Chagaev beat Valouev and won the WBA title. Vlad beat Chagaev for the real WBA title. Valouev was not really champion, he did not win the fight in the ring, only by WBA robbery.
     
  6. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Please watch the fight again on tape and try to be unbiased. Valuev did not miss for 12 rounds he also hit Haye. ;)
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes, Haye had lumps on his face for a reason. Haye did nothing but run, he landed a good shot in the 12th round, but that was it. Whatever, Vlad beat the real WBA champion anyway. Vitali wants to knock Haye out but Haye refused to fight him.
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Valuev did win the fight, agreed.

    So did Holyfield.

    Not sad to see Valuev gone, though.
     
  9. Farmboxer

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    I just hope Haye fights and does not just sit on the title.
     
  10. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    I bet my house at the sea that he won´t fight no Klitschko in his next fights. Haye will fight Ruiz, then perhaps Ruiz again, then Valuev again but no Klitschko.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    I think you are right.
     
  12. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valuev lost huge ! You can make an argument that he lost every single round, as he was just hitting air, not a single clean punch that landed. The worst kind off ineffective aggression i´ve ever seen. Haye wasn´t very busy, but he did enough to win almost every round, not a spectacular fight from the Brit, but very smart.
     
  13. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Youre wrong mate ! ... Haye boxed a tactical fight to beat the big guy .. he couldnt beat him ono other way ..it was a lovely defensive masterclass from Haye . Did valuev land one punch on Haye ? No ... Does Haye know he has a dodgy chin ? Yes ... Did Haye fight the perfect fight to accomodate the above two questions ? Yes ....

    And considering Hayes hands were wrecked I think this performance was outstanding - going abroad into germany - outboxed the champion with tactical nowhow ! ....
     
  14. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You odviously do not understand the game mate ! ...maybe stick to your american football and Baseball WORLD championships ...

    Boxing is an artform of both attack and defensive masterclasses .. haye produced a defensive masterclas against a guy 7st and one foot taller ..slip n move ! ... Was haye under pressure from his attacks ? No Valuev couldnt land a telling blow ... Haye landed the majority of the quality punches through out the fight ....

    You should probably stop watching Rocky films mate and study the boxing artform ....
     
  15. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    Valuev won?
    Ummm, no he didn't.

    Watch the fight again, and pay special attention to the part at the end where Haye has his hand raised and is given the belt.

    :good