Paul Williams: "Pac has my belt"

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  1. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree, but the stance of most boxing fans is that Cotto, Mosely, and everyone else in the welterweight division ducked Paul because they were afraid of him. Now, suddenly people are asserting that Paul is a coward for calling out Pacquiao, who just destroyed Cotto, while at the same time NO one would have asserted that Paul was a coward for calling out Cotto, quite the reverse, actually.

    My stance is that Williams is freakishly huge for a welter and it's almost unfair to ask ANYONE at the weight to fight him, but thems the breaks and if Paul can get to 147 then anyone else campaigning there is fair game, including Pacman.
     
  2. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    :lol:

    PTP tends to give up his height but nice graphic none the less. :thumbsup
     
  3. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Well I agree with you in the end, everyone at WW, except for Clottey is ducking Paul Williams.
     
  4. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    yeah he s alot taller than pac- but so what- tyson was like 5'10" - shorter than PW even!!?!
    i swear- people overrate height and reach so much in here. and generally i think. time and time again- its been proven - the two most important attributes for a fighter to have - are skill and speed. and power close behind.
    in fact- i would put it like bruce lee once did. the three factors in a fight- are speed------power-------skill.
    thats it.
    whoever has two of the three will win the fight- every time.

    im just getting tired of people saying so and so is too big- whatsisname is too long- he s too solid- has the bigger frame- yadaydadayada.

    look back at the past year- no the past 5 years in boxing. when has size trumped skill and speed?!?!?

    floyd > oscar
    pac >oscar, ricky, cotto
    haye > valuev
    hopkins >tarver
    roy > ruiz

    yet everytime- we act surprised when a skilled small man beats a stronger bigger man. and yet- everytime- when it comes time to place a bet- we revert to the old ignorant instinct- to pick the bigger guy in a fight.
    i think you have to go back to hopkins over oscar to see the last guy who was much bigger - beat a smaller - quicker guy- but then - according to my formula- he had advantages in both power and skill. ;-)

    trust me- that formula works damn well- its proved me right in my betting every time- i swear.

    with floyd manny- its tricky though. manny has more power- no doubt, floyd has better skills ( debatable- but defence is more valuable than offence- so he has the edge - clearly but close)- however speed is whats making this close. whomever is faster- in hands and feet- will win.
     
  5. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i wud be shocked if paul williams can make 147 again, as boxers age they naturally fill out. the guy is like 6"2 , thats very hard to come down to 147.

    im surprise that magarcheeto ever made 147 cus he's pretty tall too at 5"11
     
  6. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol. Everybody wants a piece of the Pacman.
     
  7. Low37

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    Paul just pick somebody your own size.
     
  8. Battlestar

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    I heard this same statement over ODLH, Hatton and Cotto:hi:
     
  9. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Pac would take this fight if he had too, but he doesnt.
     
  10. Nosbor

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    WOW! How brave of Williams. He would probably have the temerity to additionally suggest/demand that Pac meet him up at a catch weight of 150.
     
  11. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    This just in...Pavlik just called out Pacquiao

    over at the scene he just said he wants to prove he is a P4P calibur fighter by fighting the best.

    Wow...Pavlik is a warrior
     
  12. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Do you mean Foreman?

    Or are you just yanking?
     
  13. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is a lightweight pretending as welterweight while PW is a SMW pretending as welterweight, PW naturally enjoys to many physical advantages with height and reach being the more pronounced. At his more comfortable weight, Pac has a chance but it is next to impossible for him to beat Williams.
     
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    Pac's power shots that KOd Hatton and dropped Cotto can flatten Williams but the problem is how Pac could land those shots on a guy enjoying 8" height and 14" reach advantages.:huh
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No matter what PW says, I don't believe 147 is the division for him.