Which fighter beat the most all time greats?

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  1. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    To get the ball rolling.....

    World wide

    Ali beat;

    Floyd Patterson
    Archie Moore
    Bob Foster
    Joe Frazier
    Sonny Liston
    George Foreman

    Anyone you can think of beats this?

    British wise....

    Calzaghe beats;

    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones Jnr

    .........................

    Any advances on these two?
     
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  2. colinthfc

    colinthfc Guest

    Pacman - Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, ODH, Hatton & Cotto amongst others
     
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  3. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis would be about the only person I can think would have a little shout!
     
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    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously talking British!
     
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    lolb Active Member Full Member

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    I personally wouldn't rank Oscar, Hatton and Cotto as all time greats. Marquez is also touch and go. IMO
     
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  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Lewis beat 2 ATG's and one was horribly shot. Hardly earth shattering :D Calzaghe did the same, pretty much exactly the same. One slightly faded but still top level great and one completely shot one.

    I think all-time Harry Greb would be up there. He's not rated because everybody has seen him in great depth, that is for sure. He's rated highly purely on the number of hall of famers he beat, he must have been damn good.
     
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    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Pacquiao has beaten a **** load of A-level fighters..... as for ATG's, I'm not sure any of them are, though a case could be made for some of them.

    That said, I'd rather have his resume with at least a dozen top liners than one ATG and a load of gatekeepers.
     
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    Hard to beat Ali's collection

    Ray leonard beat Hagler, Hearns, Duran and Benitez.
     
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    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Barrera and Morales are certified greats, Oscar is hit or miss depending on criteria really, he lost an awful lot of the fights that mattered but some people give all sorts of credit for persona/contribution to boxing/competition etc. Hatton and Marquez most certainly are not.
     
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  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    wow

    no Jimmy McLarnin mentioned yet, ill go get his list of wins right now
     
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    lolb Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Robinson off the top of my head

    Gavilan
    Armstrong
    Basilio
    LaMotta
    Graziano

    There are more I'm sure
     
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    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    The phrase ATG is thrown around like confetti in boxing, probably more so than any other sport put together.

    Barrera and Morales probably have a very strong case..... DLH does as well despite being on the wrong end in most of his big fights - if you give him the wins over Trinidad and Mosley, and call it a career after Hopkins, his record is 41-2 (29) with pretty much everyone worth mentioning on that slate.

    Cotto and Hatton are no-no's, Marquez probably as well.
     
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  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Gene Fullmer


    also heres McLarnin

    Jimmy McLarnin

    Joey Sangor
    Joe Glick (x3)
    Billy Wallace
    Sid Terris
    Phil McGraw
    Ray Miller
    Sammy Baker
    Young Jack Thompson
    Al Singer
    Sammy Fullmer

    Fidel LaBarba 2-0-1
    Pancho Villa 1-0
    Jackie Fields 1-0
    Charles Taylor 1-0
    Louis Kaplan 1-0
    Sammy Mandell 2-1
    Billy Petrolle 2-1
    Benny Leonard 1-0
    Young Corbett III 1-0
    Barney Ross 1-2
    Tony Canzoneri 1-1
    Lou Ambers 1-0

    Thenormal ones are ring ranked contenders and the bold is Hall of famers


    (thanks to Mannasa for the list)
     
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    ****ing Hell, I think we have a winner. I had heard of him but didn't realise he had a resume like that. Bit more research into him I think.

    Thanks for that
     
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    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    he has some resume, the classic researched this and he came out tops in terms of beating ATG's. Its amazing taht he beat those Flyweight ATG then mixed it with the great Welters
     
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