Has Bob Fitzsimmons Got A Legit Claim As The Gretest Fighter Of All Time?

In that case Vitali Klitschko should rank higher in terms of all-time greatness than Jack Johnson, and Andrew Golota should rank higher than Rocky Marciano.

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Toney is past it and fat but still has 100,000,000,000% more skilled than anyone from the 1890s, plus hes more muscled than anyone from that era bar Jeffries

 

You are arguing that a 160 version of Duran beats Fitzsimmons? How exactly would he deal with Fitzsimmon's power and aggression and strength? Duran would be bullied all around the ring, and that's saying something when we are talking about Roberto Duran.

 

Fitz was a winner and a thinker, in any era he would be great. He had the physical ability and mental strenght and intellegence to be a force at any time.

 

The same way he dealt with Barkley who was a bigger puncher, more aggressive, and brought way more pressure than Fitz. Barkley probably KOs Fitz

 

I'd prefer to fight Hearn's over Fitzsimmons, that's for sure.

It matters not when you were around, you don't have a career likes Fitzsimmons' and come away not knowing much about fistic combat.

One time "Fitzsimmons was not happy with his training quarters so he just punched it in the canal." NY Times, 1896, July 12th, P36.

 

So muscled equat to greatness, then? That's practically what you are saying there. Number one, that's bull**** - Toney is fat, a lot fatter than a number of guys from 'that era' as you put it. And number two, according to you they were all fat and unconditioned. So how were they about to go 20/25 rounds?

 

By what virtue is Barkley a bigger puncher than Fitzsimmons?

We'll forget this debate anyway. We'll get back to what Bokaj said, why can't we accept that Fitzsimmons did great things in his own era? It's pointless trying to take him out of that era, chuck him into today's scene and then debating how he'd do.

 

Muscle is important it helps bones extend quickly but its only 1 of many factors. The main difference is the 1,000,000,000,000,000% improvement in skill Toney has over them

They could go 20-25 rounds because they threw 3punches a round

 

Barkley was a beast who took guys out wearing bigger gloves and seems to have more torque in his shots