Which "Draw" Is The Most Wrong.

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  1. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which of these 3 draws was the most unjust?

    Lewis vs Holyfield

    Whitaker vs Chavez

    Fenech vs Nelson

    I only want them judged purely on what happened inside the ring,so factors like the fights significence,pre fight hype and post fight reactions don't enter into it.

    Personally I think Fenech-Nelson (but I may be biased) as I watched it just recently and couldn't give Azumah more than the first couple of rounds although he did make several rounds competitive fighting off the ropes.

    Then again Lewis dominated Holyfield for long stretches of their fight as well but I don't think he meted out quite the punishment Fenech did.Still he won handily.

    Whitaker put on a show against Chavez and won several rounds huge but Chavez probably managed to win a couple of more rounds than Holyfield and Nelson did.

    Your thoughts :think
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I confess, I've never seen Chavez vs Whitaker. Divac felt Chavez deserved a draw?
     
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    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I had Lewis winning 118-110. That's my choice.

    I had Whitaker winning 116-112. It's been a long time since I watched Nelson-Fenech 1. I think I had it 117-111 for Fenech.
     
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    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whitaker won it clearly I thought but Chavez probably took 4 rounds.
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fenech Nelson and Lewis Holyfield were equally as bad I remember scoring it for Lewis 117-111, As for Fenech -Nelson i dont remember my scorecard but I do know it was a worse call than Chavez Whittaker which i scored 116-113 Whittaker.
     
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    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If Anarci scored the fight close for Whitaker that tells me all I need too know.

    Whitaker/Chavez was most likely 12-0.
     
  7. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So i scored Barrera Morales I 115-113 and i layed a couple hundred bucks in Vegas on him, does that mean Morales shut him out:huh
     
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    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I was kidding mate. lol. I'll have to get my DVD out soon and watch it myself, it might be painful for me because I like Chavez.
     
  9. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Who's the gal in the avatar Griffo???

    I'd be quite happy going 12 rounds with her.... regardless of the final verdict.
     
  10. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He outboxed him he didnt beat him up, so its not so painful in that sense. Ive seen worse robberies so dont let the Sweet Pea nuthuggers corrupt your thinking.
    Also watch it with the sound off and youll see the scoring isnt as wide as everyone says.
     
  11. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree Pacheco and Czyz made it sound worse than it was but it was a very poor decision.
     
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    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never had a problem with either Lewis/HolyfieldI or Nelson/FenechI, so obviously I am going for Chavez/Whitaker.

    Whitaker won the fight, but the draw was given as it seemed important in a boxing sense that Chavez kept his '0'. Hindsight showed that did not work, as even the casual fan, did not buy it.

    The draw did Whitaker more good than harm, as people felt sorry for a man who it was hard to like as a person, it got Whitaker noticed, as he became more than the brilliant but awfully boring boxer, to the bloke who got screwed by DKP.
     
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    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are all equally poor decisions, but I vote for Lewis Holyfield on the basis that I actually saw that fight live without prior knowledge of the decision.

    I thought Lewis won flat out. I couldn't find 5 rounds that could have went to Holyfield. Even after watching it a few times.
     
  14. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Olivia De Haviland frequent co-star of Aussie pugilist of sorts Errol Flynn.Still alive too at 93 so you're still a chance mate.

    By the way just finished Fammo's book.Reading it gave me the urge to seek out his fight with Saldivar (highlights anyway) and I agree with Fammo,he looked stiff to lose going by the footage I saw.
     
  15. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this^^^ But not the first sentence which i deleted. Besides that i agree with you about Whittakers popularity stock rising, most fans back then were not whittaker fans lot of people thought he was boring and smug. Its funny how popular he is now:lol: Especially by a lot of people who didnt watch him fight until well after he retired.