If Hopkins challenged and fought Calzaghe at 168 in 2002, but in US...

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  1. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    hopkins, that dominated trinidad, would beat calzaghe imo.
     
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    Workrate and Speed ..
     
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    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought Hopkins won when they actually did fight. A younger, fresher version would have been better able to execute a consistent plan. He wins clearer and wider if they fight in 2002. That's not a knock on Calzaghe. I believe Calzaghe is absolutely for real and a great fighter. He just doesn't beat Hopkins at that point, in my opinion.

    Edit: I've discussed this in detail enough times that I won't be back to this thread to reply if someone comments on my post.
     
  4. Morrissey

    Morrissey Underrated Full Member

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    And the Hopkins of 2002 would offer similar resistance he gave to Calzaghe in 2008?
     
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    Yes ! In 08 He's twice the fighter he was in 02 .
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about his stamina
    was Hopkins Stamina in 2008 twice as good as his stamina in 2002?

    What about his power he only got 2 KO wins since 2002, and has 32 wins by KO in total, was his power in 2008 better than his power in 2002?

    One fact that cannot be denied is that Hopkins was 40+, and it cannot be but some attributes decline as you age.

    Hopkins 2002 (mid 30's) > Hopkins 2008 (40+)

    tht **** dont even need to be written coz its more or less common sense
     
  7. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    yeah the jones that beat trinidad would have beaten calzaghe! just like the hopkins that beat trinidad would! in fact the lacy that beat vanderpool would have beat hopkins! vp gave prime bhop a tough/close 12 rounder apply esb's logic and walah!!
     
  8. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It aint bout the win over Trinidad
    Hopkins clearly had better stamina, speed and power in that fight than he showed when he fought Calzaghe, Wright and Taylor back in 05.
     
  9. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Hopkins lost a decision when he was over 40 and didnt maintain a high enough output. When he was younger he threw more punches and all I think he has to do to beat Calzaghe is up his output. That is why I would pick him.
     
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    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    How do you explain the fact that Hopkins punch output against Wright was broadly similar to what he managed against Trinidad?
     
  11. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    yes he clearly had no energy in the pavlik and tarver fights too! lmfao! oh this place,theres more excuses than a beastiality offenders rahabilitation programme! pathetic. prime isnt based on age (see tyson v lewis) calzaghe beat a peak hopkins.
     
  12. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    :deal:good
     
  13. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    by peak i mean a hopkins at the top of his game,a p4p fighter and the lhw champion. when he lost to taylor he was a better fighter! yet when he spanked the man who took taylors crown and clowned the man at lhw he was not the same! rofl hopkins v oscar 2 please.
     
  14. Wiirdo

    Wiirdo Boxing Addict banned

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    Really? Come on now. Even I didn't think ESB would sink to these lows.

    I can't wait to see Pacquaio in 10 years. Imagine how good he'll be then.:roll:
     
  15. socrates

    socrates THE ORIGINAL... Full Member

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    bhop spent the majority of his career fighting lower than his natural weight and his style does'nt allow him to be dragged into wars! pac is a warrior who has moved up in weight numerous times,a balls out fighter,bhop has no wear and tear! now u come on!