Eubank vs Calzaghe 1997 revisted

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  1. assasin

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    he's as mad as a box of frogs;)
     
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    Like I said before Realsoulja, I went on Boxrec and the 2 fights Eubank had after Collins 1 and the 2 fights he had after Collins 2 are closed book, so where did you get those weights on there? And we know you were wrong about one of them after Collins 1 saying he was fighting above SMW because one of them was a SMW eliminator.
    So where on Boxrec have you got these facts or are you going to say you didnt really get these facts now?
     
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    1998-07-18189Carl Thompson189½
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    Ponds Forge Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomLTKO1012x3
    ~ referee: Paul Thomas | 87-84 | 86-86 | 87-84 ~
    ~ WBO cruiserweight title ~
    Stopped after 9th round on advise of the doctor, when Eubank's left eye closed completely from swelling. Judges; Adalaide Tripplet, Roy Francis Dr. Ruben M. Garcia

    1998-04-18186½Carl Thompson189
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    Nynex Arena, Manchester, Lancashire, United KingdomLUD1212x3
    ~ referee: Roy Francis | judge: Luis Pabon 113-114 | judge: John Stewart 113-114 | judge: Dave Parris 113-116 ~
    ~ WBO cruiserweight title ~
    Thompson down in the 4th round.

    1997-10-11167¾Joe Calzaghe167¼
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    Sheffield Arena, Sheffield, Yorkshire, United KingdomLUD1212x3
    ~ referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Paul Thomas 111-116 | judge: Roy Francis 110-118 | judge: Dave Parris 109-118 ~
    ~ vacant WBO super middleweight title ~
    Eubank down in 1st.

    1997-03-27177Camilo Alarcon175
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    Tennis Club, Dubai, United Arab EmiratesWKO410

    1996-10-19177Luis Dionisio Barrera
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    Indoor Arena, Cairo, EgyptWKO510
    ~ time: 0:42 | referee: John Coyle ~
    Eubank "caught Barrera with a right hand to the body under the heart" (Sunday Mail)

    1995-09-09167½Steve Collins167
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    Pairc Ui Chaoimh, Cork, IrelandLSD1212
    ~ referee: Ismael W. Fernandez | judge: Aaron Kizer 113-115 | judge: Paul Herman 113-115 | judge: Genaro Rodriguez 115-114 ~
    ~ WBO super middleweight title ~

    1995-07-29171¾Jose Ignacio Barruetabena165
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    Whitley Bay, Tyne and Wear, United KingdomWKO112x3
    ~ referee: Mickey Vann ~
    WBO super middleweight title eliminator

    1995-05-27173½Bruno Ruben Godoy168
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    Kings Hall, Belfast, Northern Ireland, United KingdomWTKO110x3

    1995-03-18167¾Steve Collins167¾
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    Green Glens Arena, Millstreet, IrelandLUD1212
    ~ referee: Ron Lipton | judge: Roy Francis 114-116 | judge: Cesar Ramos 111-115 | judge: Ismael W. Fernandez 113-114 ~
    ~ WBO super middleweight title ~
    Eubank down in the 8th. Collins down in the 10th.




    Weighed in 173.5, then 171.75 for the SMW eliminator then 167 for slapzaghe, then 177 twice.

    Off boxrec.
     
  6. Fighting Weight

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    Anyone who actually watched the fights back then knows that Eubank was never the same after that 2nd Watson fight....20% of Eubank died in the ring that night. Had he been the same fighter he'd have finished Collins for a start but he backed off, watch the tapes.

    The Eubank that fought Slappy was weight drained and even though he was only 31 was an 'old' fighter. He put up a respectable performance but he wasn't the same guy that beat Benn all those years earlier. I'd place Benn, Watson and Eubank above Slappy in terms of greatness to be honest, they were all extremely good fighters whereas Slappy was nothing but a con artist.
     
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    Fair play to you Realsoulja that was completely my stupidity and being quick to doubt you, but you are right and I was wrong on the weight subject about the SMW eliminator, I apologise for doubting you, id never noticed the weights just after the dates, my mistake. 10/10
     
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    How could anyone suggest Eubank was in his prime? No title, no TV, no press. He was dramatically below his prime at that time!
     
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    What has TV, titles and press got to do with a fighter.
    If a fighter isnt recognised people dont think they are any good but this isnt always the case,
     
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    We're talking about 'prime', aren't we?
     
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    How far past do you think he was?
     
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    the time of maturity when power and vigor are greatest

    TV, titles and press = power

    Eubank had it more than anyone in his prime. He didn't have it at the time he got in with Calzaghe.