Mastering a certain style of boxing- let's break down the technical factors

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I thought you was Addie for a second.

    But do you get my point where Monzon strayed from the norm he didnt leave gaping weaknesses, that is just as effective as technical perfection IMO and helps in mastering a style, call it alternative textbook basics, someone like Mayorga is just not even nearly effective because of his gaping flaws.
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah Greg, i get you fully and i fully agree. He's one of the most effective and dominant fighters of ll time, i was just pointing out that it wasn't what the debate is here, that's all. That's why i picked him as one of the great fighters who i don't consider to have mastered the technical aspects of his game.

    When it comes to effectiveness, well have you ever seen me knock him in that regard? That can't happen, not from me. One of the most imposing ring generals on film.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think this is important, and it's a point that a lot of people fail to grasp.

    Technical perfection and boxing fundamentals are not one and the same.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Ok then we are agreed, and I have went off in some tangent, as usual with you.

    I cant mind who said it but it was on here

    'Mastering the fundamentals just means your a very good copycat.'
     
  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said McGrain and Gpater. So many people are so simplistic in their views.
     
  6. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    ? Not sure if it's a dig at me or not El Bujia? I've agreed with GPater fully, nobody's knocking Monzon here.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Thanks.

    Nah, its no a knock at you, I dont think. More other people who critsize Monzon for lack of technical skills.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great thread this. Haven't found anything to really contribute with, but great thread all the same.
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    It's a jibe at me most likely.

    Although McGrain did once claim that he thought Monzon could be the most technically faultless fighter ever. And now he's covering his arse... :lol:
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a poke at everyone who disagreed with my viewpoints, as I'm always right.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll have a go:

    Tyson as a swarming boxer-puncher (how's that for narrow category?).


    Headmovement: Pretty basic but effective. He moves his head side to side instead of a bob and weave in order not to expose himself to too many uppercuts.

    Guard: Hands held high, often in a peek-a-boo guard. Since his short stature and forward leaning stance guards him against body shots he can afford a high guard.

    Footwork: Very good for his chosen style. He's good at taking short steps in rapid succcession without losing balance, which allowd him to close space quickly and also cut off the ring, which he does very well.

    Punching: His strongest aspect. Throws great text book punches and puts them together very well in combinations. Good enough to throw unusual combinations like a right hook to the body followed by an uppercut to the head. Very good at combining punches to the body and head. Also has a very good jab. He jumps it in very well to make up for his short reach, often to the chest. It sets up his other punches rather than doing much damage on its own.
     
  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't even remember that remark. There's no "arse-covering" at all, this, and your persistant and bizarre accusation of double-standards are a battle you are fighting in your own head.

    I have absolutley no doubt that I post inconsistantly, no doubt at all, and also no doubt that you will realise your inexplicable ambition to uncover these, but please don't flatter yourself that i'm "covering my arse" in subsequent posts.
     
  13. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Good breakdown, all points are good there
     
  14. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great thread and great post!!
     
  15. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thanks Al, fancy doing one for us?