Pavlik vs Andrade?? Who'd win?!

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  1. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    as far as one punch power, its tough to say pav has more in one shot than bute. bute can crack as can kelly. the two men have very high ko ratios but get to the ko differently. bute is a slick and quick and is able to come from sharp angles. he also goes to the body better than damn near anyone today. kelly on the other hand wears people out with that right hand. bronco mckart commented after being stopped by kelly for the first time in his career that everything kelly throws has something on it.
     
  2. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point. I am clearly biased and not at all considering Pavlik's recent performances, rumored personal problems, lack of confidence and history at 168 when making my prediction.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You didn't ask me, but I'll chime in anyway. It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how good you hit. Look at Abraham: Pavlik and Bute both have higher KO ratios against generally better opposition, but AA probably has more one-shot power. Arthur has more power, but Kelly and Lucian are both better at knocking people out.
     
  4. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    no..but you are giving Andrade more props than deserved to give more credence to Bute getting slapped around.
     
  5. Marlow

    Marlow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik by late KO
     
  6. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I've got severe doubts about Pavlik's chances against the best 168 pounders. He didn't look particularly good against Taylor in the re-match at 166 and we all know what happened with Hopkins. I think he loses handily to Ward, and also comes up short against Dirrell and Bute. I'd make him the underdog aginst Abraham, Kessler and Froch also, although he has more of a chance in those fights.

    Having said that, I think Andrade is a perfect match-up for him. Andrade's style of marching forward and hoping you tire yourself out by punching him in the face, isn't going to meet with much success against Pavlik.

    Andrade either takes a prolonged 12-round beating or Pavlik stops him.
     
  7. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    k pav owns andrade imo
     
  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You may be right, although Andrade won, what, 2 or 3 rounds of 16 against Bute? Hopefully Pavlik lines up a fight soon so we see where he is at. I don't think he has much of anything left but who knows.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Everytime someone makes that statement their credibility takes a huge hit. Hopkins failed twice. Winky failed. Pavlik won, and to this day he is the only man who holds a decision win over Jermain Taylor. The comment you made is something that ought to be reserved for blind and ignorant haters.
     
  10. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I'll rephrase - he didn't look anywhere near AS good. Even though Pavlik won the rematch, I thought he looked a little sluggish and didn't look at any point like he was going to recreate the fireworks of their first fight.

    Whether the drop-off in his level of performance was due to the extra weight, or just simply that Taylor fought a lot better, I don't know. Either way, this fight (even though it was a good win) didn't convince me Pavlik would be capable of being the top guy at 168.

    Like I said though, Andrade would be the perfect fight for him to make his mark at the weight and build up some momentum.
     
  11. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Watch that fight back to back with a few others.
     
  12. Kavgenik

    Kavgenik ESB Belt Holder Full Member

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    Stieglitz ain't a good example, he's doesn't really have a good chin
     
  13. BigBoiBoricua

    BigBoiBoricua Active Member Full Member

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  14. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I think this would be a war of attrition , not a pleasing fight on the eye , i like this fight , if Kelly has any aspirations of doing anything big in this division Andrade would be an excellent marker , i actually really do have time for this fight , what id really like is to see Arum throw caution to the wind and hijak the joke of a fight with Bute and Brinkley and see if he could get Kelly in with Bute !!!! , that just aint old Bob's nature though ........
     
  15. Godpepsi

    Godpepsi New Member Full Member

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    Is it a crazy Idea I'm throwing ? Pavlik vs. Andrade to become Stieglitz mandatory !!!