Can anything be done about home town decisions?

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  1. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Something has to be done about home town decisions. Even a non-boxing fans can tell when a fighter is robbed. It makes boxing look bad, as well it should! Chambers was given a decision, in Germany, over Dimitrenko, but does not happen enough. What can be done? Don King is hard to stop by anyone.
     
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    Is that why Void is teaming up with him? :smoke
     
  3. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    KO is the only assurance.
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    So far the KO seems to be the only solution, but can there be another solution? Can we actually get neutral judges? IF so, how? Could pressure from fans do any good if there were an e-mail address, or some site that could record all the protests? Remember when Oscar beat Sturm? I wanted Oscar to win, but Sturm beat him badly. Oscar was out of shape, but that was not excuse, Oscar lost, etc. So many have trained so hard, won a fight and lost. Dale Brown Vs. O'Neil Bell is a good example. Shown on TV live, Bell's fans booed him. No rematch was allowed. The fans were spat upon by the Network and promoter.
     
  5. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not a damn thing can be done about it, if you leave it in the hands of the judges its not up you.to win in hostile terriorty you have to ko or dominate your man.a close fight means the guest fighter losses almost all the time.hell as great as the super 6 is everyone is winning in there backyards and losing in someone else's backyard.only fighter that almost won an away fight was dirrell against froch.

    nothing can or will be done about this ****, what ever happen to that happen scoring ?
     
  6. DobyZhee

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    how about judges who oversees the main judges?
     
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    If you're fighting in Germany - knock your opponent out....You may get a draw
     
  8. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The KO is the only solution. That's why I like KlitschKOs. They leave nothing to the judges. They just knock them out. They had to to adjust their styles from the very beginning so that they could crack this problem (home decisions).

    It is happening every weekend all over the world. Some people want to make it look like it is only Germany. That's not the case. The last two weekends showed once again that America is not a stranger to home judging.
     
  9. Ilesey

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    They have as much chance of curing home town decisions as they do curing your AIDS.
     
  10. Vanihm

    Vanihm Active Member Full Member

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    The right guy won every fight in the super six, and Abraham and Kessler both got more rounds by the judges when fighting away than most neutral observers gave them.
    And the guy who had Froch winning over Dirrell by three points also had Kessler beating Froch by 4. So he is apparently trying to be friends with Hennesey and Sauerland?
    Bad example.
     
  11. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Or how about a full run down from every judge after the fight, to be released the next day, like the match report from a referee in real football. They can explain why they gave that score, why they thought the person deserved the round more, what they thought were the main scoring punches in each round etc etc, that way they have to justify themselves and we dont end up with all these bull**** Sturm-like desicions.
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    You could start by putting the judges inside sound proof booths with focus windows on them. Hometown crowds have a ridiculous influence over the perception of a fight. Apparently the sound of 20,000 people going crazy makes an impression.
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    This...

    ...and this.

    Although implementing sound proof booths may be turn out to be abit costly. Could just invest in a pair of headphones from Argos for each of the judges. That could do the trick.
     
  14. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    International judges for all world title fights would be a nice start.

    Due to the nature of the US justice system which gives major power to the states, boxing in that country is state commission controlled which alone wouldn't be a problem. However state athletic commissions require all officials to be licenced in the given state (no other country I know of requires that), and since it's impossible that the well-respected international judges get a licence in every single state, you see mostly American - and local state - judges even in such important fights. It is not a deliberate thing from the commissions (although promoters use it as an advantage), but the numbers simply win: there are several dozen local judges licenced in Missouri for example, but there's just a few international with a Missouri licence. And local judges are much cheaper.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    International judges did not help Dirrell did it. :deal