Mayweather is top 5 all-time even if your a hater!

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  1. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    talent-wise, Floyd may be top 5 all time...but accomplishment wise he barely breaks the top 20...his biggest win is over a reasonably over the hill De La Hoya...not to mention his gift decision win against a average/good fighter in Castillo
     
  2. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    so lets hear an argument smart guy. who was better and how and/or why?
     
  3. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    what happens if he loses..just like those fighters you put him with?
     
  4. Twirdman

    Twirdman Active Member Full Member

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    This is really crap. Barrera was coming off a dominating win against Nassim and was on a winning streak when Pac beat him. Hatton was not past prime either he had one loss against PBF at a weight were he didn't look comfortable and went back to 140 where he absolutely decimated Malignaggi one of the top LWW at the time. Pac then proceeds to KO him inside 2 rounds. And if your saying Cotto was post prime what about Mosley he had one good showing against an unfocused marg and people treat him like the ****ing second coming. Mosley was a good win but clearly he had seen better days, I mean come on. Also 154 was not ODLH best weight it was simply the weight he was competing at at the time and he wasn't exactly in the best condition when they fought. Also Baldo wasn't that great I understand why Floyd fought him he was lineal but face it he was an OK boxer who had a lucky win against Zab. And we know Zab was good but lacked discipline so that hurt him. Lots of natural talent but not the work to pull off the greatness he could have. So yeah Mayweather has a good resume especially pre 140 with wins like Castillo and Corrales. This is similar to Pac who had most of his best wins pre 135. I personally put Pacs recorder better mainly because he has been continually fighting since 16. World champion at 19 and has remained up there since. Mayweather's first vacation really hurt him in that regard. As for top 5 that is just way over generous. I figuare top 40 or so.
     
  5. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    Walcott is a good argument. and im assuming that your talking about jack johnson is to. thhose are my personal 2 favorite fighters atg! walcott had the great feet, head movement, and hand speed and power, not to mention alot of fights against ATGs and alot of fights period. and johnson was waaaay ahead of his time. but 100 fights has been long gone even the ali and SRL era didnt do that except JCC. but niether of those guys was better boxers or more dominant. leep in my mind that im sayig IF PBF goes undefeated for his career with wins over pacman and possibly martinez and/or pwill.
     
  6. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    great argument! i dont agree but all valid points that we have to agree to disagree on. but im saying IF PBF beats pac and one or two more guys like pwill and/or martinez will he be top 5. not yet tho, i do believe he will do all that tho. do you think he will be top 5 if he does?
     
  7. eslubin

    eslubin Active Member Full Member

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    Those are big if's! lol

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  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I think top 40 is also fair...
     
  9. ringini

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    Well Then you dont know much
     
  10. Ashstrodamus

    Ashstrodamus Rodney Dangerfield of ESB Full Member

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    All time greats create excitement. All Mayweather creates is boredom. I'd rather watch Sunday Morning with Charles Kuralt.
     
  11. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    if he loses in his prme then hes definatly not top 5
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Cool, because he definitely lost to castillo.
     
  13. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    how can you consider Mayweather top five when he wont even fight the other best guy in the world right now.
     
  14. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    shut up newbie
    all that means is he has avoided all dangerous guys when he had the chance...look at his record the last 9 years.... YAWNNNNNNNNNNN
    all the big boys werent on there
     
  15. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    boredom u say? see the hatton, mosley, judah fights. or maybe the gatti, corrales, JLC, chavez, corley fights. but if u really thim pbf is boring watch the augustus fight and tell me that PBF is a boring fighter:yep