If World Championship never fragmented:Heavyweight

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  1. Tonifranz

    Tonifranz Active Member Full Member

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    Don't you mean:

    Holyfield-Bowe-Holyfied-Moorer-Foreman-Briggs-Lewis-Rahman-Lewis?
     
  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there were only one Champion. You think Moorer, Foreman, Briggs would beat Holyfield to win the belt?

    Rahman could briefly capture the Championship, as he did. until a rematch with Lewis.
     
  3. Tonifranz

    Tonifranz Active Member Full Member

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    Moorer was I think the number one contender, and even with one belt, he'd still be one, and Foreman was a voluntary defense for Moorer.

    Well, Moorer did beat Holyfield, and Foreman KOd Moorer, and Briggs robbed Foreman, so yeah.

    But I think Foreman would get stripped first before losing the Briggs fight.
     
  4. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I pretty sure Holyfiled would still face Moore, and Moore would win the title, I think the line stays the same up to Foreman, now with Foreman champion, I dont know what would happen after that, I think he be force into a fight with Lewis over Briggs or something, not sure.
     
  5. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After the last Bowe-Holyfield fight. I'm sure Lennox Lewis would have been the top contender. There's also Tyson & Frank Bruno in the mix.
     
  6. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    My guess would be Chris Byrd, he was ranked by the Ring as the number one heavyweight from 2004-2006. I can see his rematch with Wlad being for Vitali's vacated title.
     
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    :good
     
  8. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    something doesnt feel right seeing briggs listed among them
     
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    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    Fraiser
    Foreman
    Ali
    L Spinks
    Ali
    Holmes
    M Spinks
    Tyson
    Douglas
    Holyfield
    Bowe
    Holyfield
    Moorer
    Foreman
    Briggs
    Lewis
    Rahman
    Lewis
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    It ends with Lewis IMO. I don't consider Wlad to be the true heavyweight champion although he is clearly the best right now. If he were to beat either his brother or Haye then I think the lineage would start again.
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great List, but someone would've gotten to Holmes before M. Spinks did.
     
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    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    I don't quite understand your point. Nobody did beat Holmes before Spinks did. I don't see how this would be any different if Holmes was the only champion in the division. Everyone considered him to be the best heavyweight around long before Spinks got to him. The fact that some other fighters held belts didn't change that.
     
  12. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Great call. I somehow missed the Holyfield's loss to Moorer :think
     
  13. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Imagine if we reversed controversial decisions, the line would look something like this:

    Floyd < Ingemar < Floyd < Sonny < Cassius < Joe F. < George F. < Muhammad < Jimmy Young :)admin) < Ken < Larry < either Tim or Carl, take your pick and then the line get diluted from there

    EDIT: Wait a minute, the Ken Norton fight ended in a controversial decision so...
     
  14. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    I believe that Vitali after defeating Corrie Sanders was the man in the HW division - and if there had benn only 1 belt, they would probably have fought for it then.

    Why beating Haye makes Wladimir a linear champion? :think Wladimir beat Byrd (IBF), then he beat Ibragimov (WBO) and then he beat Chagaev (WBA, stripped because of the corruption)

    If anything makes Wladimir a linear champion it would be without any doubt beating Chagaev, as he was no2 contender then (no1 Vitali),
     
  15. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you think Byrd would beat Wlad in the rematch with the vacated title on the line?

    We also have to rember who controls the title also.

    Back in the day, if the mob wanted John Ruiz to be champ, by god he be champ lol.

    Would the same type of rule follow with King and Co?