Because he had been fighting MMA as a pro since 2005, and that fight was in 2008. Can't verify, but rumor is he also has a judo black belt. Regardless, you don't fight MMA that long and never train grappling. It's ridiculous to think so.
Well it's clear that he was taken to the ground and he used his ground grappling experience to get himself out and back up to his feet where he can dominate. Plenty of mma fighters dominate standing, doesn't mean their not an mma fighter. Jeremy also has a black belt in judo. Judo is a martial art. Boxing is a martial art. You combine the 2 it's called mixing martial arts... Real simple. Jeremy ha also been working on bjj. You go into mma with just wrestling, you get submitted, go in there with just bjj, you get ktfo, go there with just striking, boxing/kb/muay thai, you get submitted or ground and pounded. Btw there's sparring vID of Jeremy n Lennox, Jeremy gets frustrated and starts throwing Lewis around.
You are basically backing up my point, if I'm a championship boxer I'm at a huge advantage for all I need to learn is how to stay and get back up to my feet
Wow. You seriously have no clue. I believe this is what Toney thought, go watch the video of what happened to him.
It's not as black and white as you put it, if you get taken down get back up so you can carry on trying to punch the guy. There's a lot more that goes on between getting taken down and getting back up. Like what to do if he starts getting you in a triangle or guillotine choke. What if he starts getting you in a leg lock. You have to learn how to defend yourself on the gound i.e. BJJ, you don't know what position you're going to end up in. This was Toney's downfall as he thought like you, the "I'll just get back up" mindset. People that think like that have no clue and won't get far in MMA.
You are borrowing skills from other martial arts in order to get back up, most likely bjj and borrowing wrestling moves to stay standing. Cro cop won't submit anyone but to stay standing, he is learning different skills fr different martial arts. By learning different arts, it is, wait for it, mixing martial arts. Look I'm a boxer but I know my limitations. Saying you will simply get back up from a hold of a bjj black belt without proper grappling training yourself is like saying you will simply slip and block a top professional boxers punches without any boxing background yourself. That's ignorant and incredibly naive.
:rofl:rofl:rofl I love how you just assume that James Toney actually 'thought'. And a semi-rational thought at that! You are no longer to be taken seriously sir. :rasta
lol the sad thing is keeping it standing wont necessarily help either. pele reid kayod klitsch. people forget that.
you say polaoto, i say potatoe polatoto you are a idiot...you have no idea what you are talking about
I can't believe people still argue this point. David Haye, who is one of the most athletic boxers in the sport said he got taken down at will when he tried this.