Joe frazier was better than marciano in everything

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Common sense should tell youy that they both had different strengths and weakneses.
     
  2. chin= marciano? really? proofs? george foreman would absolutely destroy rocky faster than he did with frazier. walcott might not never knock down frazier.frazier or draw
    stamina = draw
    power/strength = frazier was more compact,heavier and stronger
    hitting power= right hand rocky / left hand frazier
    speed = frazier
    conditioning= rocky
    footwork= frazier

    SO YOU ARE INCORRECT
     
  3. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sometimes the whole is MORE than the sum of its parts.
    Im sure janny will concur...
     
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    I'd think you'd be hard pressed to justify either being more conditioned than the other.
     
  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, whatever gets people posting. :lol:
     
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  8. DaveK

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    As far as chin is concerned:
    Marciano got dropped by Walcott and Moore.
    Frazier was dropped by Ringo and Foreman.

    There isn't any question in my mind that both Foreman and Bonavena hit harder on the one-punch than Walcott or Moore.

    Anyone can be dropped, and all hitters concerned hit hard enough to hurt just about anyone.

    That doesn't mean Frazier's chin was better, necessarily because he got up and stayed up. Frazier went down at least twice on both occasions. I think Frazier fought harder punchers in general than Marciano, but I think Marciano could have done well enough in Frazier's shoes.

    So what does this all mean?

    It means both men had good, but not great, chins. Both guys were sturdy, but either could be dropped.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think anyone suggesting such a thing is not only uninformed but a terrible, terrible person. :bart
     
  10. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Such a fellow should be held in the stocks and pelted with old tomatoes...
    He should also be excommunicated to MMA.
     
  11. i agree absolutely
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Some Rocky fanboys even try to say Rocky had a better right hand than Joe, LUDICROUS
     

  13. wow great arguement... i think you must go to the mma forum urgently
     
  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    preacher sonny liston.wrong thread hahaha
     
  15. janitor

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    But Frazier wasnt only droped by Ringo and Foreman. I think he was also droped by Scrap Iron Johnson.

    If that is the case then the edge should go to Rocky.