Arreola kicks Ortiz and Rios's asses at the same time. Or at least smothers them under blubber. :blood
Don't be hating on my top 2 ATG, or I will have Victor Ortiz hunt you down and beat your ass like he did to Maidana :bbb
Easily hell I even got benny leonard over ray. Duran in my book was so close to being the goat if he had won against hagler there would be a legitimate case for him being so.
In my Top5 are six fighrer you basically could put in any order. Chronologically: Bob Fitzsimmons Sam Langford Harry Greb Henry Armstrong Ray Robinson Ezzard Charles
Pep was a career featherweight, he fought bouts over 126 if that's what you mean, just like any champion does when they have that lee-way when it's not a chmapionship fight, or after they have been dethroned etc. Anyway, even if that is a point to concede, my point about Ali having a better resume is valid. Pep- Chalky Wright Sal Bartolo Jackie Wilson Manuel Ortiz (great but smaller) Sandy Saddler Paddy Demarco Harold Dade Ray Famechon Jackie Graves Ali- Sonny Liston Joe Frazier George Foreman Ernie Terrell Cleveland Williams (past prime) Ken Norton Floyd Patterson (not the best version) Jerry Quarry Earnie Shavers Henry Cooper Jimmy Young Ron Lyle Bob Foster (great but smaller, just like Manuel Ortiz for Pep) Jimmy Ellis Forgive me if i've missed out some names that i shouldn't have. You're dead right in saying that Pep had depth, i'm just as right in saying that Ali has an immaculate resume, and a better one than Pep does. I keep saying that i know all about Willie Pep and if we are going to discuss who the better fighter is then we can do that til the cows come home, and Pep might win, it's close, but when we're talking about greatness Ali edges him, and those big wins are the tie breaker, but clearly. You can't say that Pep fought in a good era and allow him to benefit from beating countless contenders and then deny Ali the same benefit, and on top of being the best of two fine eras, Ali has three wins over fighters who are constantly put in the top ten in his division's history.