How "skilled" to do consider Pacquiao?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    look at the headmovement on that video
     
  2. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    That's what I'm watching it on...HBO on demand. Looking at it, it seems in parts that Pac does the same exact things, and fights in the same exact way back then as he does now. I agree when people talk about how much he has improved over the last 6 years or so, but his improvements may be a lot more subtle than some people make it out to be...
     
  3. Conan

    Conan I AM THE DOCTOR Full Member

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    His right hand is better as is his head movement and overall defense as well as the individual strategies he implements in various fights
     
  4. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    He has no skills. Wins all his fights by cheating or luck or both.
     
  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's skilled, but not nearly as much as many make him out to be, especially those harping on about how vastly improved he's become as a fighter. He's still predominately a physical marvel, albeit one that's managed to hone his skills to fit those abilities.
     
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    Trying to **** off the Mayweather choir.
     
  7. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Incredibly skills - speed, power, movement and weird angles is a lethal combination.

    But his defence could be better but I guess that's the trade-off for the above. Since he gets into fighters' faces sometimes,I wish he could land more upper cuts.

    Apart from that, almost as good as me.
     
  8. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    In some of his sparring sessions, he looks a lot more "skilled" in that he takes less punishment and does some great move-counters.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    I won't say exceptionally skilled . . . just highly skilled.

    To be able to breakdown opponents systematically and consistently means the fighter's skills should be above average.
     
  10. u29236

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    you have to be skilled to out box oscar with barely using a jab. watching the difference in morales 2 to 3 is amazing. From forward fighting and sometimes countering to countering every move morales made. I would say he progress faster then anyone later in his career and still making improvments. I also think nonito, floyd, and many others at 28 is more of a complete fighter then when pac was 28. However, Pac is still improving where others have stopped progressing in skill at around 28.
     
  11. Spit Bucket

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    i think he is highly skilled ...

    its just hard for us to see his "skills" when its his glaring "talent" we see most of the time ,furthermore, his unorthodox style does not help build his case as well

    but to be able to beat and hang w/ the fighters in his resume... that has got to be one pretty skilled fighter right there
     
  12. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he's exceptionally skilled. You don't get to the level he's at without having skills. Of course he's a great athlete, but so is Zab Judah.

    It takes more than a high degree of athleticism to be great.
     
  13. bballchump11

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    He very skilled, but if he's not one of those type of boxers that'd be real efficient if his athleticism decreases a lot
     
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    He is severely underrated in the skill department.

    People have come to overhype defensive skills like Floyd's and not appreciate offensive skills and courage as much. Since Roy Jones, the measure seems to be to get hit as little as possible and "dominate" your opponents by pot-shotting.

    Manny is still old-school, where a knockout isn't something that will come or not, but a knockout is something you go out and pursue. Of course, being offensive like that will get you hit more. But there used to be a time when the ability to take a punch was regarded highly as well.