How would Pacquiao have done the last few years without PED's?

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  1. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    Just f*cking stupid...
     
  2. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd is on steroids!
     
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  4. Nub Nubly

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    I have no proof but I will take a shot cuz I have been around the block enough to know...

    It is almost impossible to move up in weight and also increase strength speed and agility. He has done all three. Hag, hearns, Duran all moved up in weight and won a lot...but lost power. It's genetics. He isn't just hitting hard shots...he is FLOORING guys with power at much higher weights. RJJ was juiced, Mosley was juiced and many fighters are juiced.

    They use some that aren't detected by testing. They can also cycle off season long acting drugs then go to short acting ones closer to fight.

    Could he be a genetic freak? Sure. One example is look at his calves. He has HUGE ones and that is something roids will not increase. So he may very well be naturally able to grow and should have been fighting at a higher weight.

    It's just a probability thing right? It's rare to increase size and not loose something. He didn't only maintain where he was; he became faster, more powerful and has seemingly taken greater shots.

    "steroids don't cause you to take shots better." Well when you are pumped with juice you are more resilient and your body just heals faster so those bumps and bruises at camp will heal much faster. RJJ was a freak athlete who ALSO took steroids which made him even more dynamic. I see it being quite possible that Manny is on them.

    Regardless I think Mayweather would beat pac man even when juiced.
     
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    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe...because at this point too many people would have a l lot to lose if anything was discovered now!!!
     
  6. IsaL

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    He would have stayed at 135 and finsihed his career there.
     
  7. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Many boxers are probably on roids.

    Its a fact that the current testing used is not good enough to catch all types of PED use in Boxing.

    By the way i am not saying that pac is actually on roids, i am just saying the testing is not good enought at present.
     
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    2 crackheads and duck said so.......so it must be true :hey
     
  9. sailor pops

    sailor pops miam! vice Full Member

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    If you consider "faith hormone" as PEDS, he won't have accomplished all his feats. People tend to understimate that religious belief is a very powerful asset in any sport. Sportmen tend to be more supersticious than the average population.
     
  10. 53 and counting

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    Is that you Jeff Mayweather?
     
  11. sailor pops

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    It's much more complicated than that. Most of the professional athletes out there are not strickly "clean".

    At any high level competition, athletes will maximised every aspect of their training and conditionning to gain that very little edge against the adversary.

    Same thing can be said about PEDS use. Let me clarify with a very simple example that a chemist teacher told me years ago when i was in College:

    When a sample of blood of an athlete is taken for testing, scientists will determine the concentration of specific hormones and molecules; let's say testoterone which is naturally produced by the human body and their concentration in the blood stream is very important (performance wise) for the athlete.

    The average level of testoterone for male is between 300-1,000ng/dL. But a drug free athlete would get around 500ng/dL. And this is where the hypocrisis begin: most of the competing athletes have over 800ng/dL of testosterone in their blood. But since they are not over the 1,000ng/dL limit, they can legally compete. Get it? Same thing can be applied with growth hormone, EPO, ...

    In general, those who got busted managed poorly their conditionning and let some substances in their blood stream over the concentration limits.
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Thoughts?

    You are a dumb ass stupid poster as usual.

    You are talking as if the Peds allegation has been proven.
    Go back to your cave. :hi:
     
  13. Grillinnap

    Grillinnap Flomos are morons Full Member

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    Why did they ban Leon and not other *****s like this one?
     
  14. DJAdAmS

    DJAdAmS Ex-Army Middleweight Full Member

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    Who is to say that Mayweather is on roids and he is creating a smokescreen drugs do run in his family and a drug is a drug taken by narrow minded people. I'm sick of all this **** especially this black/white/yellow whatever colour thing, **** we all **** and **** the same way! Get a life keyboard warriors!!!
     
  15. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    *****'s get a free pass about their spamming for an inactive fighter. There are some *****'s in high places around here.

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