Mark My Words, Gene Tunney would outbox and embarrass Muhammad Ali

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Maybe you're not the henrycooper,
    Poster from a few months ago,
    I just read a post of his saying bugner deserved the decision,
    Sorry for any confusion,
    Please stop being,
    Mean to me.
     
    lufcrazy, May 31, 2011
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  2. P00ckerh00ked

    P00ckerh00ked Guest

    so funny. u can shut the **** up now u **** ass *****. :finger :finger :finger
     
    P00ckerh00ked, May 31, 2011
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Another poster I thought was you, riphenrycooper,
    He wrote a post about ali beating,
    Henry fair and square,
    So perhaps i'm all wrong and)
    You really are new to the forum.
     
    lufcrazy, May 31, 2011
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  4. P00ckerh00ked

    P00ckerh00ked Guest

    yea u r not funny ****
     
    P00ckerh00ked, May 31, 2011
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Why be mean to me,
    You don't even know me since,
    You're "new" to this forum
    A poster called henrysh00k was always nice to me,
    We discussed the folley fight
    And both think zora got robbed.
     
    lufcrazy, May 31, 2011
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  6. manbearpig

    manbearpig A Scottish Noob Full Member

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    Well done
     
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  7. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    tunney is great but ali was bigger and better in every category. tough matchup for tunney.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    I'd actually slightly favour a peak Tunney over a peak Ali.
    He's one of very few I'd favour.
    The Ali who fought Cooper, Chuvalo, Folley, showed the exact flaws I think Tunney could exploit.
    Tunney would be more of a puzzle for Ali than Ali would for him, IMO.

    Interestingly, I think Ali beats everyone as big or bigger than him, but I'd favour three or four smaller guys to beat him. Prime for prime.
     
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  9. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    two questions for Tunney supporters:

    1. What 6'3 215lb heavyweight did Tunney ever fight?

    2. What black fighter did Tunney ever fight?
     
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  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think anyone embarrasses Ali but then again I don't think Ali would embarrass Gene. Tunney was a tough quick guy with very good power and smart. Ali had a better HEAVYWEIGHT resume but Tunney would be a tough fight for him. Ali had trouble with the smaller faster guys like Doug Jones, Henry Cooper and none of them in Tunney's calibur

    Close decision......I will lean towards Ali but not surprised if Tunney wins ...well maybe a little...Ali always got the benefit of a close fight
     
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  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali would win it...based on his size, weight and reach advantages mostly..if Tunney was bigger..it might have been a very different deal....sorry SonnyListonjab...but Tunney was a great fighter.
     
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  12. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Good points. I'm a big Tunney fan but the guys he beat at HW dont give me enough reason to pick him over Ali.
     
    Rise Above, May 31, 2011
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Tunney is a great h2h lhw but i'm not sure about heavyweight. He did enough there to establish a legacy but not enough to say for sure he'd beat someone of ali's calibre.

    Personally I think ali wins a very boring decision.
     
    lufcrazy, Jun 1, 2011
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  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IDK , people say Tunney was that good , yet he was KOd by Dempsey , people still keep asking about what would have happened had he not retired , but he actually lost by KO to Dempsey.
    Yet Ali sucked donkey balls on many occasions , cheating frequently and taking advantage of alcoholic whiteboyassskin sometimes , but still having the need for smelling salts.
    I say , if Doug Jones did it , maybe Tunney could have too.
    No disrespect for Jones whom had some other impressing (for a lightheavy) wins and even respectable losses.
     
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  15. leverage

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    Tunney was a great boxer back in his time but he wouldn't be much competition for Ali. Ali was simply too fast, large and mobile for tunney, who would be so confused that he would be at a loss of how to handle Ali.

    Ali would outbox, outpunch and outclass tunney on the way to a late round tko. I do believe that tunney would be skilled enough to take the fight into the latter rounds but thats about it. He would lose nearly every round.
     
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