Calzaghe's WBO "title reign" vs the fighters in "The Ring" top 10

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  1. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and he was old then. victorious, but still old. he's been old for ten years. he's just that good. calzaghe knew that, that's why he didn't rematch
     
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    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this
     
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    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl well said
     
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    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thank you. they seem to think hopkins always threw 20 punches a round
     
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    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like how you missed Brewer and Mitchell off your list. We all know guys like Eubank, Veit, Bika and others were top 10 as well. Technically Mayweather won't be top 10 against Ortiz. Who really cares what ring mag think anyway? Boxing News and Boxing Monthly are better anyway imo.
     
  6. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    A rematch would have been even clearer in Calzaghe's favour seeing as he would'nt have been fighting abroad, wouldnt have Joe Cortez as referee, would have been more acclimatised to the weight. I mean if Hopkins cant even beat a guy with broken hands who cut corners in his training during the build up what an earth makes you think he would prevail in a proposed rematch at the Millenium stadium, its not as if he was winning anything significant from the fourth round onwards because Joe had worked him out.
     
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    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    The arguement is flawed seeing as the ratings are coming from an American magazine, meaning no disrespect but that will always look favourably on the American based fighters.
     
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    make_the_weight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Flipping heck I like Joe but why **** on others to make him look good? Props to rjj jc and bhop
     
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    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    Thank you!

    Some people are just always gonna hate Smokin' Joe, I say let em cause they all know he was is a great...
     
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    Serhiy Dzinziruk
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    WHAT.THE.****!??! You use Ring ranking ALL THE TIME *******... :patsch
    But as usual, you use **** ONLY when it benefits you...
     
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    Man Joey Slaps nuthuggers are the greatest of all time nuthuggers.
     
  13. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    you think you had good facts? :lol: your response is like a fighter that's been knocked out but still claiming victory. i hope you're not an attorney with the arguments you give.
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Phailey is one of the most ridiculous, delusional ****s on this board. to this day, he still counts Jones Jr. as a big win for Joe C. And why? Jones was ranked #6 at LtHW. :lol: By Ring...the 'biased' american mag.

    I've called him out on his inconsistencies on fighters and rankings, or his hypocritical outlook on how Americans are biased, not him... but he just ignores it. It's as if he has a mental condition. these Joe C Fanboys really live in an entirely different reality. All while acting like smug ****s. It's quite the train wreck. :yep
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Dubace will never get over the
    fact that Calzaghe beat Hopkins :lol:. Live with it ****
    They are very good facts because you havent found a counter :patsch
    You have just self pwned as if you claim Jones was so shot, so then you agree that the Rings ratings can be bias :yep. Self pwned :lol:. C#nt :patsch.
    Just for the record since Jones lost to Calzaghe he has looked unlucky not to score a KO over Hopkins as Jones landed a punch that put Hopkins down and Hopkins couldnt continue for a while saying the punch was on the back of the head. Remember also that in Jones last fight against world rated CW Lebedev, Jones was ahead on one card whilst fighting away in Russia. Forgot to mention that part :lol:.
    Uttercunt you are so stupid, I walk you into traps while you believe you are setting them :hi:.

    Lets have another little look at these facts

    After Eubanks fight with Calzaghe

    1. Frankie Liles*, 31-1, WBA champ
    2. Joe Calzaghe* (Britain), 23-0, WBO champ
    3. Robin Reid (Britain), 25-0-1, WBC champ
    4. Joseph Kiwanuka (Uganda), 25-1-2
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      (Britain), 45-3-2
    Reid you note who wasnt coming off a loss
    Starie became
    1: Joe Calzaghe* (GB), 34-0, WBO
    2: Sven Ottke (Germany), 27-0, IBF
    3: Eric Lucas (Canada), 35-4-3, WBC
    4: Antwun Echols, 29-4-1
    5: Robin Reid (GB), 32-3-1
    6: Byron Mitchell, 25-1-1, WBA
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    Sheika who you didnt note when Calzaghe beat him
    1: Joe Calzaghe* (Britain), 28-0, WBO
    2: Sven Ottke (Germany), 19-0, IBF
    3: Glenn Catley (Britain), 26-3, WBC
    4: Bruno Girard (France), 37-2-1, WBA
    5: Byron Mitchell, 20-1-1
    6: Markus Beyer (Germany), 18-1
    7: Richie Woodhall (Britain), 26-2
    8: James Butler, 16-1
    9: Charles Brewer, 35-6
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    Woodhall you note who also wasnt coming off a loss

    Veit when Calzaghe fought him a 2nd time
    1: Joe Calzaghe* (GB), 38-0, WBO

    2: Jeff Lacy, 19-0-0-1, IBF

    3: Mikkel Kessler (Denmark), 35-0, WBA

    4: Markus Beyer* (Germany), 32-2, WBC

    5: Danny Green (Australia), 19-2

    6: Mads Larsen* (Denmark), 45-2

    7: Robin Reid (GB), 38-4-1, IBO

    8: Anthony Mundine (Australia), 23-2

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    Brewer you note who also wasnt coming off a loss

    Mitchell you note, but you dont note how Mitchell was coming off a SD loss to Ottke which was very debateable.

    Mkertchyan did enter into the ratings after his KO win of the undefeated European SMW champ 26-0 J Chanet

    Ashira was rated at MW



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    Lacy you note

    Manfredo wasnt coming off a loss and was world rated



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    Kessler you note

    Bika also became rated



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    So if you work out how many fighters were top 10 rated and how many became top 10 rated after Calzaghe beat them he fought 22 SMW title fights and 15 were or became top 10 rated. I havent included Ferreyra who had been top 10 rated before fighting Calzaghe

    15 out of 22 at SMW, Thats very good :smooch but even better when you note Calzaghes LHW career, because as a career total it becomes
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    Now we could say Ward beat Kessler coming off a loss to Calzaghe but that wouldnt be strictly true.
    But we could say Ward beat Abraham coming off 2 very clear S6 losses and Green had lost to Miranda

    Enjoy :good


    After Reid came back with a win and Malinga lost Reid was rated higher than you note when Calzaghe beat him
    1: Joe Calzaghe* (Britain), 26-0, WBO champ
    2: Frankie Liles*, 32-1, WBA champ
    3: Richie Woodhall (Britain), 25-1, WBC champ
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    (Britain), 27-1-1

    Same as Woodhall, as Beyer who beat Woodhall was KOd by Woodhall victim Catley
    1: Joe Calzaghe* (Britain), 29-0, WBO
    2: Sven Ottke (Germany), 20-0, IBF
    3: Bruno Girard (France), 38-2-1, WBA
    4: Byron Mitchell, 21-1-1
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    (Britain), 26-2

    6: Dingaan Thobela (South Africa), 40-7-2, WBC
    7: Glenn Catley (Britain), 26-4
    8: Markus Beyer (Germany), 18-1