Aoki: Overrated

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  1. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    Anderson Silva tapped the Michael Jordan of BJJ... Travis Lutter.
     
  2. Stoo

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    Hey I just asked a question since you asked I think that if you want to claim him as the no 1 LW in the world, then his grappling credentials are important, being a grappler and all

    Anyway Nog has submitted
    X2 K1 level strikers
    x2 Olympic Level Wrestlers
    3-1 against black belts, with one submission, 1 ko win, 1 decision and a ko loss to Frank Mir

    Damian Maia has
    1-2 in MMA against Black Belts, 1 submission win, 1 ko and 1 decision loss
     
  3. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Aoki is 8-1, 1NC against BJJ blackbelts with 3 subs, the loss was a KOd,

    Anything else you would like to know?
     
  4. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Spider is the Wayne Gretzky of elbow strikes
     
  5. Stoo

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    Why do you rank him no 1 LW in the world I guess
     
  6. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    As I explained, I understand having him as low as #4, but my belief is that the Aoki we saw in Nashville was not a prepared one, I need to see Melendez beat Aoki in Japan to be convinced otherwise.
     
  7. Stoo

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    Fair enough. If he beat him again in the Cage in the US?
     
  8. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    If its the same fight as the first one then without a doubt, but Aoki will surprise you
     
  9. Stoo

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    I think Gil is UFC bound sooner or later, will be surprised to see the rematch
     
  10. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    If Shields and Nick are there then it is almost a certainty, for better or worse

    If Melendez became the UFC champ, would it change your ranking of Aoki?
     
  11. Stoo

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    No, why would I change it?
     
  12. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    By that I take it you have Gil #1 at LW
     
  13. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    aoki was never given a fair go in ufc. left to stagnate for a while then thrown into the deepend is a good way to let someone loose form. u cant say somebody is a "can" just because u have never heard their name. for example the spider is undeafted in ufc but lost to 4 "cans" in japan.
    dana white never seems to give the japs a fair go. just look at okami, that dude earnt his shot ages ago and he keeps on getting hung out. whether he wins or looses is not the point, he earnt his shot at spider 4-5 defenses ago and from memory hasnt had a fight since.
     
  14. Stoo

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    This is a joke...right?
     
  15. whopperdong

    whopperdong "sorry dan, im the man" Full Member

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    my bad i was thinkin of another japanese fighter not aoki...... i will tell u as soon as i figure out who it was.
    but other then that yes i reckon dana fuks them.