Best Featherfisted ATG?

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  1. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Gotta be Rosenbloom.
     
  2. abraq

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    I don't think it is possible to be featherfisted and become an ATG. However, if we are discussing the lightest hitting ATGs then I will second Duodenum's list.
     
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    Pep was not featherfisted.

    I'd say Rosenbloom is the correct answer.
     
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    Why is he definitely ?
    Why not Greb ?
     
  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Greb featherfisted?
     
  7. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greb could supposedly hit hard but he broke his arm a few times and used volume of punches to win after that (to prevent further injury) rather than velocity/power...or so ive heard.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I'd say not.
    But then nor was Pep.

    Greb wasn't a HARD hitter, he was a volume puncher and was hurtful because of his speed and unexpected angles of attack.
    He rarely knocked anyone out though. Well, his KO % is about 17% I think.
    Pep's stoppage % is actually higher.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Pep's close enough for me.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Willie Pep fought twice as many fights as Greb did, of course he would have a higher knockout percentage but it's not by much.

    Nobody has said Willie was featherfisted, I just think he might have been the greatest fighter ever who didn't really possess any serious pop.

    Apparently Pep scored 65 knockouts in well over 200 bouts, whereas Greb scored 48 in just over a 100.
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Greb's actual punch power seems tougher to gauge because of all his weight leaping imo
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I think Willie Pep scored 5 KOs in his 10 championship fight wins.
    For a guy who boxed strictly in the purest sense, he was knocking a lot of good and durable fighters out.

    I'm not sure why he's getting so may votes here.

    Again, even Greb's more worthy of being called "feather-fisted" and I wouldn't go that far.
    Or Billy Conn.
    Both ATGs, surely.

    Pep hit pretty hard.

    Max Rosenbloom was possibly truly featherfisted, but he was known for not really making a "fist" when he hit you anyway.
     
  13. mcvey

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    Strange that there should be so many at Light Heavy :huh
    Loughran
    Conn
    Rosenbloom
    Maxim
    Pastrano
     
  14. ricardoparker93

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    Barney Ross would be my shout... a beautiful boxer but not much of a puncher.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    :lol:

    I dont know where to start with that statement.
    Firstly, Pep had LESS fights than Greb.
    Secondly, do you know how percentage works ?


    Well, the thread is called " Best Featherfisted ATG? " and some have said Willie Pep.

    You've got your facts wrong.
    Greb had about 300 recorded fights. 299 according to boxrec.