Devastating Jabbers.

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Show me some film of this.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are some of your other thoughts on Foster, Suzie?

    Where do you rank him all time at 175?
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Janitor, I had read accounts claiming this, but the footage suggests
    that the knockdown punch was not a jab at all, but a long hook.
    What do you think?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZQRExcO9aA[/ame]
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You are right, it was a hook that closed the deal.

    Even so, it is noteworthy that Listons jab did most of the damage, and brought the deal to that finishing flurry.
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huhDid you watch the footage? He did no damage at all with the jab, which he only threw a few of early on. What caused the damage was the barrage of clubbing right hands and left hooks.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Janny, indeed nobody disputes how lethal Sonny's jab was. Youtube footage like Liston-Bethea is vital though in dispelling certain myths and legends, and this is the specific match most often cited in literary accounts of how devastating it was. Likewise, there is no question of what the Holmes jab really did do to Ocasio. The first knockdown was the one which Jaws had the most difficulty rising from, and it was by a jab Liston would have heartily approved of. Larry launched it very close to Ossie's head, and it went right through him, rather than catching him on the end of it. (Holmes-Ocasio does not seem to be readily available on line at the moment. It should be. This is one of the overlooked outstanding performances in the Holmes canon. Ocasio-Young I & II should also be available for context. Jaws was as well prepared for dealing with a great jab as any heavyweight contender of the era possibly could have been, yet Larry demolished him with it.)
     
  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [dm]xerwd6_buster-douglas-jab_sport[/dm]
     
  9. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsx5n3S0Xl0[/ame]
     
  10. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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    sonny liston
    pinklon thomas
    larry holmes
    muhammad ali
    george foreman
     
  11. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bobby Czyz developed something he called his "shotgun jab." It was capable of being a potent weapon.
     
  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Someone who flies wayyyyyy under the radar was Duane Thomas who possessed a killer jab that he would thrust like a rocket. I believe he died on the mean streets of Detroit.

    Scartissue
     
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :lol: Damn, you're a hard-ass.
     
  14. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i heard bruce seldon's jab was great
     
  15. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    sonny liston, his jab broke ripped through his opponents gaurds like wet tissue paper.