Foreman vs Holyfield

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Bottom line for me. Holyfield isn't disciplined enough to box smartly, he'll go to war and get stopped.
     
  2. jhar26

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    Foreman by ko within 3.
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I think young Foreman has a better chance, but I would probably still go with Holyfield by UD. I cant see Foreman knocking out Holyfield, he was never fast enough.
     
  4. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    As far as the heavier part , I did notice that all those 37 extra pounds were the majority muscle. I mean Big George looked like he shouldve been fighting Brock Lesnar in a MMA match.lol. I do believe that due to the extra weight and muscle mass that this allowed him to absorb an abnormal amount of punishment. Unfortunatly Im still straddling the fence on whether a prime version could do much better. prime vs prime reminds me of the Ali VS Foreman.George did in fact punch himself out in that fight and was beaten by a quick Ali.
    Yet on the other hand George was a lot quicker back in the 70s and did have more zip on his punches which may play into his hand of catching Mr Holyfield with one of those diveboming , sledgehammer overhand rights .Which then would find Evander marking a loss on his record.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    True...Bert Cooper had Meldrick Taylor like speed.
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Cooper didnt knock out Holyfield, and yes a snappy puncher like Cooper has a better shot, thats why I pick a prime Tyson to do it but not a clubber like Foreman.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You think Cooper had a better shot at beating Holyfield than prime Foreman.

    ...Holyfield is getting stopped I think. He's too hittable.
     
  8. itrymariti

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    ...but Spinks would beat him, of course. ;)
     
  9. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Do you think Holyfield would have fought Foreman the same way? Cooper was limited but very powerful. He nailed Holyfield and hurt him against the ropes. I think Holyfield was susceptible to getting hurt by quick punchers and because he showed zero respect for Cooper trying to impress his hometown, he got careless and was hurt.
    I never said I favored Cooper, I said I favored a prime Tyson to be the only one to knock out a prime Evander.
     
  10. Hookie

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    Not that it matters to anybody here but Ring magazine did a piece on this exact topic back a little while after they fought. They asked plenty of "experts". Anyway, this is what they came up with for the most part...

    Holyfield actually stops a younger version of Foreman because Foreman would run out of gas. They felt Foreman was too slow and too easy to hit. They felt he would underestimate Holyfield's durability and try to bomb him out like he did Frazier and Norton. In the end they felt Holyfield would be elusive enough to avoid some of the big shots and durable enough to handle the ones that landed. Holyfield's quickness and conditioning would allow him to keep up a steady workrate and land plenty of shots on Foreman. -Ring magazine, not me

    They also felt that at JMW Mike McCallum would have stopped Hearns in the late rounds btw. They had McCallum beating Duran at JMW as well.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I been here for 5 years, Newbie. I have earned the the right to laugh in the face of some rookie who makes ludicrous comments.
     
  12. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    here, here . i cant believe that guy said that to you suzie.
     
  13. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    What about ludicrous comments like "Whitaker was a better technician than Pep"?
     
  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You didn't say it like that.


    You said it like this

    "Far and away" are very strong words. To say anyone is "far and away" a better technician than willie pep is ludicrous.