Actually, Hopkins' counter punching was exceptional against Winky. Some of them were in close quarters and even Lampley seemed to miss them. Surprisingly, Max Kellerman noticed them. He buckled Winky really good in the first round with a flush counter right. Hopkins did a lot of jumping in and throwing 5-6 combinations and jumping back out. That explains his high work rate of 640 punches thrown in that fight. But good point about the Williams/Quintana comparison. I don't know what Williams threw in that fight but it had to be noticeably under 1000. And that was obviously accomplished because Quintana was countering so well.
Excellent analysis. I just had to ask because no one taking BHop has ever really explained themselves. :good
Im going to do a thorough analysis of the fight and matchup as we get closer to the actual date (alot of stuff I see that I havent mentioned yet...saving it...:yep ). I know if I do it now, by fightnight, it will be lost on page 319... :thumbsup
But then you're going to have to eat crow when the Supernatural one destroys and stops Bernard and be guilty of underrating Calzaghe and overrating Bernard(especially currently).
I literally stopped reading after this. How any knowledgeable boxing fan made it past this point is beyond me. Perhaps for comedic value.
I strongly disagree. Joe could (and probably will) get just as dirty as Bernard on the inside if he allowed himself to. No way is Joe gonna let Bernard bully him around without taking a lot of **** for it.
Are you for real? I honestly don't know anymore, I'm not trying to be a smartass. What would Joe do? I've only seen about 7 or 8 of his fights, but I don't ever rememer him fighting a PHYSICAL fight the way Bernard does. or grinding out a 12 rounder fighting all on the inside, with somebody up in his chest for every second of every round.
Delete your screenname...plain and simple. NOONE, is dirtier than Bernard. This isnt an opinion, its fact. If you feel differently, you have NEVER seen Hopkins fight.
This is a great thread, I am british and I LOVE seeing the british Calzaghe nuthuggers get pwned. Dont get me wrong, I think Calzaghe will beat Hopkins, but you can NEVER write Hopkins off. Even if he's 43. He deserves more respect than he's getting.
I was said here by a Hopkins fan quite recently, as Hopkins himself said too I believe - someone want to dig out some quotes/links? Sounds to me like you're making excuses for 19th, like when he loses it'll be because of the weight :-( I know what I wrote was accurate, but lets see come fight night. I'm a man of my word and will admit it when proven wrong.